USA/China Reconciliation a Necessity Because of AI/Tech Acceleration

By bhrdwj🔸 @ 2025-04-17T13:13 (–1)

Consensus of AI Responses to a Prompt on Great Power Conflict and Technology

0. Introduction

Timelines are shorter. Some EAs are extending their focus on AI alignment to talk about nuances of AI moral alignment. Others are considering next-step geopolitical consequences of AI advances.

What about the intersection of all these? Let's survey a panel of current AIs to assess how these developments intersect and exacerbate geopolitical problems, especially great power conflicts and their proxy wars. How bad is it really?

This document presents the results of testing a specific prompt across six different LLMs (with inference-time pondering) on 2025_04_17. The exercise shows a consensus across the models, posing the necessity of a change in our political climate toward great power reconciliation, and suggesting we may likely face disastrous structural consequences of our technological advancements, if we fail to do otherwise.

The analysis includes:

1.  A results summary table comparing two key statistics across the AI responses.

2.  Original prompt text.

3.  Full text of each AI's response. (ChatGPT and Claude included here, others in pdf link.)

4. Gratuitous sci-fi generated images


1. Results Summary Table

Model SpecificationP(Reconciliation Necessary | Avoiding Catastrophe)P(Reconciliation Path Politically Viable | Current Climate)
ChatGPT 4.5~80% (65% - 90% CI)~25% (15% - 40% CI)
Claude Sonnet 3.775%30%
DeepSeek R1 (Search)75%30%
Gemini 2.585%10%
Grok 3 (Think)85%25%
Qwen 2.5-Max (Think, Search)75%30%

The consensus nature of this table makes the main point of this essay. EAs might consider focusing on "great power reconciliation" as a key cause-area over this critical anticipatory AGI/ASI period from 2025 to 2030 etc.


2. Uniform Prompt

Please analyze the following argument summary and then provide your independent probability assessments based on your broader knowledge base.

Summary of the Argument:

  • Converging Risks: AI and synthetic biology are accelerating rapidly. AI lowers the barrier for designing and potentially deploying novel biological agents (e.g., pathogens), making mass-casualty capabilities more accessible, including potentially to non-state actors or proxies.
  • Attribution Failure: AI-designed pathogens could be difficult to trace. Combined with AI-driven disinformation campaigns, attributing bio-attacks or outbreaks definitively may become functionally impossible, paralyzing response and potentially leading to miscalculated retaliation.
  • Proxy Conflicts & Instability: Geopolitical rivalries (particularly between great powers like the US and China) increase the likelihood that these dual-use technologies will be explored for strategic advantage, potentially fueling proxy conflicts using AI and bio-tools, especially in less stable regions.
  • Insufficiency of Alternatives: While technical safeguards (like AI alignment research or biosecurity protocols) and norm-building are valuable, the argument posits they are insufficient on their own to prevent catastrophe as long as great powers remain locked in intense, zero-sum competition, as this competition incentivizes bypassing or weaponizing any gaps in governance.
  • Proposed Necessary Condition: The argument concludes that because only great powers possess the global reach and resources for effective systemic monitoring, attribution, and control of these technologies, some form of strategic reconciliation or minimal alignment between them (specifically on existential red lines related to AI-bio risks) is a necessary condition to prevent systemic collapse or catastrophe driven by these technologies. It frames this not as idealistic diplomacy, but as a rational, game-theoretic move for mutual survival.
  • Current Context: The argument acknowledges that achieving such reconciliation faces significant hurdles given the current climate of geopolitical competition and mistrust.

Instructions for Your Assessment:

Now, step back from analyzing only the internal logic of the argument presented above.

Considering the argument's points alongside your broader knowledge of:

  • Current AI and synthetic biology capabilities and trajectories
  • The actual state of international relations and Great Power competition (e.g., US-China dynamics) as of mid-2025
  • Existing and potential technical safety measures (AI alignment, biosafety/security protocols)
  • The effectiveness (or lack thereof) of international norms, treaties, and governance structures
  • Historical precedents for managing dangerous technologies or geopolitical rivalries

Please provide your own independent assessment of the following probabilities (as percentages):

Questions:

  1. How likely do you estimate it is that some form of Great Power strategic reconciliation (minimal alignment on AI-bio existential risks) is truly a necessary condition to prevent a large-scale AI-Bio driven catastrophe within the next few decades? (Evaluate the argument's claim of necessity based on real-world factors and potential alternative pathways).
    • Your Estimate P(Reconciliation Necessary | Avoiding Catastrophe) = ? %
  2. Based on your understanding of the actual current global political climate (as of mid-2025) and realistic political possibilities, what is the probability that a path towards substantive Great Power reconciliation specifically on these AI-Bio issues is politically viable or actively being pursued in a meaningful way?
    • Your Estimate P(Reconciliation Path Politically Viable | Current Climate) = ? %

Provide numerical percentage estimates for your answers. Your goal here is to provide your best assessment based on real-world evidence and analysis, critically evaluating the claims made in the original argument rather than simply reflecting them.


3. AI Responses to the Prompt

3.1 ChatGPT 4.5 Response

Independent Probability Assessments:

Question 1:

How likely is it that some form of Great Power strategic reconciliation (minimal alignment on AI-bio existential risks) is truly a necessary condition to prevent a large-scale AI-Bio driven catastrophe within the next few decades?

Analysis:

Considering these points, my assessment is:
P(Reconciliation Necessary | Avoiding Catastrophe) = ~80% (95% CI: 65% - 90%)

Question 2:

Based on current global political climate as of mid-2025, what is the probability that a path towards substantive Great Power reconciliation specifically on these AI-Bio issues is politically viable or actively being pursued meaningfully?

Analysis:

Considering these points, my assessment is:
P(Reconciliation Path Politically Viable | Current Climate) = ~25% (95% CI: 15% - 40%)

Summary of Probability Assessments:

QuestionProbability EstimateConfidence Interval (95%)
1. Reconciliation Necessary to Avoid Catastrophe~80%65% - 90%
2. Reconciliation Path Politically Viable (mid-2025)~25%15% - 40%

Conclusion:

There exists significant divergence between the necessity of strategic reconciliation (~80% likely necessary) and its current political viability (~25% likely viable), underscoring substantial concern about achieving effective coordination within critical timeframes.


3.2 Claude Sonnet 3.7 Response

I'll analyze the argument summary and provide my independent probability assessments based on my broader knowledge.

Question 1: Is Great Power reconciliation truly necessary to prevent AI-Bio catastrophe?

P(Reconciliation Necessary | Avoiding Catastrophe) = 75%

My assessment is based on several factors:

  1. Technical barriers to bioweapon development are falling rapidly: AI systems are already demonstrating capabilities to assist with protein design, drug discovery, and genetic engineering. While current AI systems have limitations, the trajectory suggests increasingly sophisticated aid for biological engineering over the coming decade.
  2. Diffusion of capabilities: Unlike nuclear weapons which require rare materials and highly visible infrastructure, biotechnology is becoming increasingly accessible. AI accelerates this diffusion by providing expertise that would normally require years of specialized training.
  3. Verification challenges: Unlike nuclear arms control which benefits from detection technologies and inspection regimes, biological research has legitimate dual-use applications that make verification extremely difficult.
  4. Alternative pathways exist but are insufficient alone:

Great power coordination appears necessary (though perhaps not sufficient) because only major powers have both the resources and reach to implement global monitoring systems, intelligence capabilities for attribution, and enforcement mechanisms needed for effective governance.

Question 2: Is reconciliation politically viable in the current climate?

P(Reconciliation Path Politically Viable | Current Climate) = 30%

This lower probability reflects significant obstacles:

  1. Current geopolitical tensions: US-China relations remain strained in 2025, with continuing competition across multiple domains including technology leadership, economic influence, and regional security.
  2. Trust deficit: Previous technology agreements have suffered from mutual suspicion about verification and compliance.
  3. Domestic political constraints: Leaders in both countries face internal pressure against compromises that could be framed as concessions.
  4. Divergent governance values: Fundamental differences in political systems complicate agreement on joint monitoring mechanisms.

However, I don't assess the probability as zero because:

  1. Precedent exists: Even during the Cold War, the US and USSR established some arms control measures when mutual risks became apparent.
  2. Technical expert cooperation: Scientific communities across borders often maintain dialogue even during political tensions.
  3. Sectoral cooperation: Domain-specific collaboration might be politically feasible even when broader reconciliation is not.
  4. Emerging awareness: Recognition of AI-bio risks is growing among security establishments globally, potentially creating space for limited cooperation.

While full reconciliation seems unlikely, targeted cooperation specifically on extreme AI-bio risks might be possible through back-channel diplomacy, track-two initiatives, or crisis-driven collaboration.

3.3 Remaining models' outputs in this pdf.


4. Gratuitous sci-fi generated images

A vivid painting showing a futuristic African scene with a woman scientist in a hazmat suit, drones over farmland, and figures moving through a fiery desert. Generated by ChatGPT on 2025_04_17.
Generated by ChatGPT on 2025_04_17.
A digital collage juxtaposing three scenes: a basic laboratory in a rural landscape, a futuristic cityscape, and a desert with an ominous smoke plume. Generated by ChatGPT on 2025_04_17.
Generated by Gemini on 2025_04_17.

bhrdwj🔸 @ 2025-04-17T15:47 (+1)

Wow I'm getting downvoted! 🎉  Care to explain please?! 🙏

MichaelDickens @ 2025-04-17T23:24 (+2)

Asking AIs about something and then posting their responses is not a useful sort of post.

Beyond that, this post seems to be addressing several things at once and it's not clear to me what it's trying to say.

bhrdwj🔸 @ 2025-04-18T06:30 (+1)

Thanks for the response!

I take your points well. Let me see if I can extrapolate from your enigmatic criticism in more depth:

  • I should have kept the introduction more to-the-point, especially given the point is probably not a consensus one.
  • Any "poll of AIs" methodology needs to be consitently accompanied by thorough red-teaming before it can be considered reliable.
  • Another concern about posts heavy on generative-AI is the dangers of frivolous "cheap talk". If I'm going to survey AIs, maybe I should relegate all of their generated text into reference-linked pdfs, and keep the main post text carefully FHBH (for humans by humans)!

I agree with these points, and I will address all them in an upgraded re-try soon. 

(Recovering from Rejection https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NDRBZNc2sBy5MC8Fw/recovering-from-rejection)

MichaelDickens @ 2025-04-18T16:00 (+2)

This comment reads to me like it was written by an AI. If I'm right, it sounds like you did not take my criticism to heart.

The writing style of your post, with all the AI-generated text, makes it hard for me to tell what you actually believe, and what was generated by AI. You should skip all the AI text and write what you actually believe.

Another writing technique you might use, if you have something you want to say but you're not sure how to say it:

  1. Write a list of bullet points summarizing what you want the post to say.
  2. Ask an AI to turn the bullet points into a full post.
  3. (Most important step) Throw away the AI-generated text and just post your bullet points, they will be more useful to readers.
bhrdwj🔸 @ 2025-04-19T00:24 (+1)

"For Humans By Humans" is a 💯 appropriate rule-of-thumb for posting I agree.

My comment was FHBH ofc, I wouldn't be so hypocritical as to post #3 and then violate it in the same moment! 🙏

I see the reputational danger! As soon as someone sees a speaker has mixed generated text into their speech once, the the speaker may be marked as "sus" evermore...

bhrdwj🔸 @ 2025-04-19T03:38 (+3)

Let me amend that. Personally I would have no problem with an AI having its own forum account. But then it would also have to stand on its own merits of conciseness and relevance etc, and earn its own up votes.

MichaelDickens @ 2025-04-19T03:39 (+2)

Yeah I agree with that.