Lessons from two years of talent search pilots
By Jamie_Harris @ 2024-05-09T15:11 (+42)
Tl;dr:
- Leaf supports exceptional teenagers to explore how they can do the most good.
- We’ve run 3 residential programmes and 4 different types of online fellowship: general to having high positive impact, focused on university decision-making, cause-specific, and subject-specific.
- I’m excited about the online programmes (especially subject-specific) as being cost-effective and highly scalable.
- I plan to actually scale these! You might be able to help through:
- Advising Leaf
- Being a facilitator or guest speaker
- Working for Leaf later this year
- Funding Leaf
- There are lots of other mini insights and updates, summarised below.
I wrote this post quickly, adapting from an existing internal doc, so that I could do an ‘80:20’ version of sharing insights. Please message me if you’d like access to the original doc with lots more detail (it’s 50 pages, mostly of summary tables of metrics I track), evidence, and reasoning transparency. Please briefly explain who you are and why you’re interested in access.
Background on Leaf
I’m Managing Director of Leaf; we support exceptional teenagers to explore how they can best help others, save lives, or change the course of history.
In conventional educational systems, teenagers don’t have support or mentorship to explore how they can do good. The incentives and encouragement for smart teens are mostly about getting into uni and demonstrating their intelligence, not thinking through how to use those gifts.
And yet they’re already making decisions relevant to doing good, like what subjects to study at university, what sort of internships to get or project to pursue, and just which problems to focus on finding out more about.
Meanwhile, many of the world’s most pressing problems are constrained by not having access to enough talented applicants and entrepreneurs. There’s a need to ensure that smart students explore important and neglected problems, rather than just defaulting to family- or status-driven careers, or tackling the problems made most salient to them through the media.
Leaf supports these exceptional teenagers to start exploring, make better decisions and get on a high-impact trajectory.
Programmes summary
Programme | Dates | Motivation and goals | Key lessons |
Residential pilot, 2021:
| (Not me) July to October 2021 (active October 2021) | I didn’t set this up so can’t really comment, but I think it was similar to the reasons here. |
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Summer residential, 2022:
| February to September 2022 (active August 2022) with some subsequent follow-up and strategic planning |
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Online early 2023:
| January to April 2023 (active March) |
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(I later concluded that some of the most promising participants in the Changemakers Fellowship had been identified by (and gained comparable value from) these programmes, and/or the Non-Trivial fellowship.) |
Summer residential, 2023:
| April to September 2023 (active August) |
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Subject-specific online programme pilot:
| September to December 2023 (active November) |
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Small pilot of an online work experience programme | December 2023 (active December 2023 to ~June 2024) |
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Online early 2024:
| January to April 2024 (active March) |
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Leaf’s next steps
I’m excited about continuing to offer cheap and scalable online fellowships, supporting top students to explore how they can use the subjects they love and skills they have to maximise their positive impact.
Some findings from the recent cohorts that make me especially excited:
- The majority of Fellows reported changes to their career plans and the majority reported changes to their views about the world’s most important problems.
- Feedback to date has been highly positive, with better or similar likelihood to recommend scores than EA Global, Non-Trivial, MATs, and AI Safety Fundamentals.
- By my estimates, Leaf is roughly as cost-effective on some of the headline metrics that CEA and 80k use as those orgs are (hours of engagement, number of connections made).
So I’m planning to scale the recent online programmes model!
Specifically, within the next few weeks I’m planning to launch applications for a new cohort to take place over summer which:
- Includes a repeat of The Mathematics of Morality, History to Shape History, and Dilemmas and Dangers in AI.
- Includes a new subject-specific programme focused on biology and medicine.
- Focuses primarily on the UK again, but tests out an internationalisation strategy (and avoids overfitting on the UK) by expanding to include the Republic of Ireland.
- (If time) I might also pilot or test demand for one or two more cause-specific programmes.
I estimate that by the end of the year, we’ll have supported more students at/on track for top universities to spend 10 hours or more exploring how they can do the most good than the entire UK EA uni group ecosystem. I’m also optimistic that the model can scale and spread to new countries more rapidly than many existing talent search and community building methods.
How you can help
If you have some form of relevant expertise* and are excited about Leaf’s mission and impact potential, I’d love to hear from you!
- I’m always keen for advice and feedback on Leaf’s plans.
- We need guest speakers as well as facilitators (hosting weekly discussion calls with ~5 fellows for 5 weeks).
- I’ll likely be hiring for more substantial roles (e.g. programme leads for individual online programmes; perhaps specialists in community, marketing, or ops; perhaps someone to replace me if I adjust my views on where I’m best suited) in Autumn/Fall this year.
If you’d like to quickly fill out an expression of interest, you can do so here. Or (my preference), you can message me on the Forum or email jamie [at] leaf.courses
* What could be relevant? Many things! Some examples, in rough order of priority:
- If you were successful or are well-connected in olympiads, debating, competitions, or other programmes that cluster together smart, curious, ambitious, or socially motivated teenagers
- Biology/medicine
- EdTech or innovative online startups
- Talent search or community building
- Marketing (especially TikTok?)
- AI safety
- Mathematics
- History
- Biorisk
- Plausibly any common/popular academic subject or any top cause area
Additionally, Leaf needs to raise funds for our 2025 plans, to enable hiring and scaling without slowing down after our summer 2024 cohort. If you’re interested in supporting Leaf financially, please reach out!
Funding has primarily come from EA Infrastructure Fund to date; renewal is likely but not guaranteed, and I’d ideally diversify our donor base. (We’ve also been supported by parents of our participants.) For brief context, our most recent cohort cost ~£30,000; ~£250 per completed Fellow (our highest level of engagement, from our most promising applicants) or £40 per completion of any level.
Thanks a lot!
(Reminder: I wrote this post quickly, adapting from an existing internal doc, so that I could do an ‘80:20’ version of sharing insights. Please message me if you’d like access to the original doc with lots more detail (it’s 50 pages, mostly of summary tables of metrics I track), evidence, and reasoning transparency. Please briefly explain who you are and why you’re interested in access.)
Chris Leong @ 2024-05-11T09:30 (+2)
There was anecdotal evidence that some of the concerns and risks relating to outreach to high school audiences have indeed been borne out to some extent, e.g. some evidence of overwhelmingness.
Could you say more about this?
Jamie_Harris @ 2024-05-13T08:04 (+2)
Messaged!
John Salter @ 2024-05-09T20:03 (+2)
Can you tell us a little more about your most promising and median fellows? How old are they? What are your selection criteria and how did they fare against them?
Jamie_Harris @ 2024-05-09T20:44 (+2)
In terms of age, I originally advertised as 16-18 but lowered the minimum to 15 because I realised that people in year 11 in the UK (GCSE exams year, deciding which A-Levels to take) might benefit as well. The majority of participants have always been in year 12 (16-17 years old).
For the rest, I have info about these sorts of things in the full doc if you'd like access. Just can't share it all fully publicly for various reasons (and didn't want to spend the time required to make a full public version that I'd be happy sharing).
Joseph Lemien @ 2024-05-09T19:38 (+2)
It's great to see that your efforts are expanding and paying off, and I'm looking forward to seeing Leaf's future development. Bravo on all of your hard work so far.
Saul Munn @ 2024-05-10T19:45 (+1)
hey! skimmed this & thought it was great, good luck with all your plans :)
thought i'd add — you might consider posting a funding app on manifund & linking it here? gives people a quick/easy way to donate to you. (coi, i work at manifund)
SummaryBot @ 2024-05-10T15:37 (+1)
Executive summary: Over the past two years, Leaf has piloted various talent search programs to support exceptional teenagers in exploring how to best help others, with online fellowships emerging as a promising, scalable model for engaging students in effective altruism and longtermism.
Key points:
- Leaf ran multiple in-person and online programs between 2021-2024 to support talented teenagers in exploring high-impact careers and causes.
- The 2023 Changemakers Fellowship had disappointing results in a rigorous follow-up study, leading to deprioritizing residential programs.
- Online subject-specific and cause-specific fellowships in early 2024 showed promise in terms of application numbers, participant engagement, and self-reported impact on university and career plans.
- Leaf plans to scale the online fellowship model, with a focus on subject-specific programs and expanding to new countries.
- The author is seeking expertise, facilitators, guest speakers, and funding to support Leaf's 2025 plans for hiring and scaling.
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