Increasing the welfare of soil animals will remain much more cost-effective than increasing digital welfare over at least the next few decades?

By Vasco Grilo🔸 @ 2025-09-21T08:30 (+8)

Summary

Introduction

Discussions about how much to prioritise increasing digital welfare often focus on the probability of digital consciousness or sentience, like Sebo and Long (2024), and Rethink Priorities’ (RP’s) Digital Consciousness Project. They sometimes also analyse its importance, tractability, and neglectedness (INT), like 80,000 Hours’ profile on digital minds. I ultimately would like to know how much digital welfare can be increased per $, which is supposedly covered by ITN. However, very unreliably, to the point I consider explicit cost-effectiveness analyses strictly better. In this post, I compare the cost-effectiveness in QALY/$ of increasing the welfare of soil animals and digital beings. Here are my calculations.

Cost-effectiveness of increasing the welfare of soil animals

I analyse the cost-effectiveness of increasing the welfare of soil animals via funding HIPF, which is the most cost-effective way of increasing welfare I am aware of. I estimate it increases the welfare of soil ants, termites, springtails, mites, and nematodes 101 k (= 70.6*10^3/0.701) times as much per $ as cage-free corporate campaigns increase the welfare of chickens. HIPF decreases human mortality, this increases the consumption of food, this increases agricultural land, this decreases the number of soil animals, and this increases their welfare for my guess that they have negative lives. I calculate HIPF decreases 5.07 billion soil-animal-years per $, 469 M (= 5.07*10^9/10.8) times my estimate of 10.8 chicken-years improved by cage-free corporate campaigns per $.

I use my past estimates for the cost-effectiveness of funding HIPF accounting for humans, and soil ants, termites, springtails, mites, and nematodes. There is lots of uncertainty about how much HIPF changes the welfare of soil animals. I supposed welfare per animal-year is proportional to the welfare range, the difference between the maximum and minimum welfare per unit time, and that this is a power law of the number of neurons. In particular, I used welfare ranges as a fraction of that of humans equal to “number of neurons as a fraction of that of humans”^“exponent of the number of neurons”, with the exponent ranging from 0 to 2. For an exponent of:

My results are below. Funding HIPF is super cost-effective for a low exponent which makes the welfare per soil-animal-year significantly negative. For a high exponent which makes it negligibly negative, the cost-effectiveness of HIPF converges to that accounting only for humans.

Cost-effectiveness of increasing digital welfare

I assume digital welfare per FLOP is equal to the welfare per FLOP of a fully healthy human. I guess this overestimates digital welfare.

Assuming a human brain has a computational power of 10^15 FLOP/s, it performs 3.16*10^22 FLOP per human-year. So the welfare of a fully healthy human is 3.17*10^-23 QALY/FLOP for a welfare of 1 QALY per human-year.

The hardware listed by Epoch AI on 9 November 2023 performing the most operations per $ had a price-performance of 4.2*10^18 FLOP/$. Multiplying this by the above welfare per FLOP, I get a cost-effectiveness of increasing digital welfare of 1.33*10^-4 QALY/$. This is 0.0899 % of my estimate for funding HIPF accounting only for humans, and 1.89*10^-9 accounting for humans, and soil ants, termites, springtails, mites, and nematodes for my preferred exponent of the number of neurons of 0.5.

I estimate funding HIPF increases the welfare of humans 59.8 times as cost-effectively as the personal welfare per $ of a fully healthy human just spending the minimum cost of a calorie sufficient diet. I determine this to be 0.00247 QALY/$ for a global cost in 2022 of 0.93 2021-$/human-day, which is 404 $/human-year.

Likewise, I guess one can increase digital welfare more cost-effectively than directly paying to run the hardware with the highest price-performance. However, I also think funding HIPF is very unlikely to be the most cost-effective way of increasing the welfare of soil animals. I believe this would optimise to increase the welfare of soil animals (instead of human welfare as targeted by HIPF), or decrease the uncertainty about the effects on soil animals, such as by investigating whether soil nematodes have positive or negative lives.

Comparison between the cost-effectiveness of increasing the welfare of soil animals and digital beings

Below are some graphs comparing the cost-effectiveness of funding HIPF accounting for humans, and soil ants, termites, springtails, mites, and nematodes with that of increasing digital welfare running the hardware with the highest price-performance on 9 November 2023 if its digital welfare per FLOP is equal to the welfare of a fully healthy human per FLOP.

Increasing the welfare of soil animals is many orders of magnitude more cost-effective than increasing digital welfare for any exponent of the number of neurons. For my preferred exponent of 0.5, increasing the welfare of soil animals is 530 M times as cost-effective as increasing digital welfare.

For my preferred exponent of 0.5, the price-performance has to surpass 2.23*10^27 FLOP/$ for increasing digital welfare to be more cost-effective than increasing the welfare of soil animals.

For my preferred exponent of 0.5, the price-performance has to double more than 29.0 times, starting from the highest on 9 November 2023, for increasing digital welfare to be more cost-effective than increasing the welfare of soil animals.

Below are the years from 9 November 2023 until reaching the price-performance needed for increasing the welfare of soil animals and digital beings to be equally cost-effective. I rely on Epoch AI’s doubling time of the FP32 price-performance of ML hardware from 2006 to 2023 of 2.1 years. For my preferred exponent of 0.5, one would need 60.9 years. So I expect the most cost-effective ways of increasing the welfare of soil animals will remain much more cost-effective than the most cost-effective ways of increasing digital welfare at least over the next few decades.

The doubling time I use is based on 17 years (= 2023 - 2006) of data, and all of the estimates above exceed this, thus not being reliable. Yet, I suspect the growth in price-performance will slow down, and that therefore it will take even longer than suggested above for increasing digital welfare to be more cost-effective than increasing the welfare of soil animals. Jaime Sevilla from Epoch AI expects nearterm price-performance to be proportional to the energy efficiency (FLOP/J) of complementary metal-oxide semiconductors (CMOS) microprocessors, and they estimate this can only become 50 to 1 k times as large before hitting physical limits, which amount to 5.64 (= LN(50)/LN(2)) to 9.97 (= LN(1*10^3)/LN(2)) doublings. These correspond to 11.8 (= 5.64*2.1) to 20.9 years (= 9.97*2.1) for the recent doubling time, which is significantly less time than my estimate of 60.9 years of similarly fast growth needed for increasing digital welfare to become more cost-effective than increasing the welfare of soil animals.

What if soil animals have positive instead of negative lives?

In this case, I would support interventions increasing instead of decreasing soil-animal-years. Nevertheless, I think increasing the welfare of soil animals would still remain much more cost-effective than increasing digital welfare for the foreseeable future. I concluded the cost-effectiveness of increasing the welfare of soil animals is approximately proportional to the increase in agricultural-land-years per $ for an exponent up to 1.12, and I do think the largest reductions in agricultural-land-years per $ are that different from the largest increases in agricultural-land-years per $. I estimated School Plates decreases agricultural land by 610 m2-year/$, and funding HIPF increases it by 1.29 k m2-year/$, which imply School Plates increasing the welfare of soil animals roughly -47.3 % (= -610/(1.29*10^3)) as cost-effectively as funding HIPF.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Anson Ho, Jaime Sevilla, and Robi Rahman from Epoch AI for feedback on extrapolating the recent growth in price-performance. I listed their names alphabetically.


Lucius Caviola @ 2025-09-22T19:26 (+7)

Thanks for sharing your analysis, Vasco. Two quick questions:

1. Could digital welfare capacity turn out to be much more efficient than in humans?

2. How would you think about interventions we could pursue now that might prevent large-scale digital suffering in the future, e.g., establishing norms or policies that reduce the risk of mistreated digital minds decades from now?

Vasco Grilo🔸 @ 2025-09-22T20:13 (+3)

Thanks for the comment, Lucius!

I guess the welfare per FLOP of current AI systems is lower than human welfare per FLOP because humans are sentient, whereas AI systems may not be, but I do not know how to estimate digital welfare in any principled way. It would be great to have some research on estimating digital welfare in QALY/FLOP, which matters much more from the point of view of increasing welfare than the probability of consciousness or sentience that are often the focus of discussion.

For my preferred exponent of the number of neurons of 0.5, the price-performance has to double more than 29.0 times (becoming 530 M times as high), starting from the highest on 9 November 2023, for increasing digital welfare to be more cost-effective than increasing the welfare of soil animals. I think the world after so many doublings would be very different from the current one, which makes me pessimistic about our ability to influence it. It would be like trying to influence digital welfare today via interventions 60.9 years ago, which is my best guess for the time from 9 November 2023 until increasing digital welfare being as cost-effective as increasing the welfare of soil animals for price-performance doubling every 2.1 years.