Investment opportunity for the risk neutral
By Denkenberger🔸 @ 2016-01-25T15:29 (–2)
Disclaimer: I am not a financial adviser and you need to do your own research.
I won't repeat this good article on investing for effective altruists: https://80000hours.org/2015/10/common-investing-mistakes-in-the-effective-altruism-community/ . But one of the key ideas is if you are investing for yourself and you are young, or if you are investing for charity, temporary falls in value should not worry you. Taken even further, if there is a big payoff, but some chance of losing all your money, this can still be a good idea. This means that you are risk neutral, and just care about the expected (probability weighted) outcome. If you are like this, then I have an investment opportunity you may be interested in.
It is three times leveraged Russia. The Russian stock market has fallen precipitously, and it has fallen even more so from the US perspective because of currency changes. If it recovers to fair market value (mean reversion) over seven years, the value of your investment would be about four times as much. However, with three times leverage, even taking into account that you need to pay interest on the implicit loan, one would expect more like 50 times the money. Now there are impacts of volatility that I do not fully understand that could reduce this. But I have seen a 3X leverage produce 15 times as much money as the initial investment in 5 years and it was not quite as good an opportunity as Russia.
The downside of Russia is not just the normal potential for temporary loss of money. It is also possible that there could be a forced sell out of foreign assets, freezing of assets, or even seizing of assets, depending on international relations. So this is definitely not for the faint of heart.
But if you are risk neutral like I am, you may want to give it a try. The ticker is RUSL. I just put a significant fraction of my portfolio into it today.
Also, one could even argue that helping out Russia when it is worst off could prevent Russia from doing desperate things, so there may be global catastrophic risk benefits.
Update: March 17, 2016:
If you decided to invest when I did, congratulations - you have made 80% on your money in less than two months! This now means that the expected long-term return is significantly lower. Then when you include the volatility drag (see discussion below), it is not clear that this leveraged investment is better than just unleveraged Russia. So it might make sense to start phasing out of leveraged Russia and buying ERUS, especially if it is a large percent of your portfolio. On the other hand, if you think that oil price will continue rapidly reverting towards the long-term marginal cost of production, since Russia is highly correlated with oil price, you may want to stay in leveraged Russia longer.
undefined @ 2016-01-25T19:26 (+9)
I didn't downvote, but for what it's worth I think this may be a bit niche and of tangential relevance to be a top level post on the EA Forum. The 'EA Hangout' or investment Facebook groups would be better fits - see http://wiki.effectivealtruismhub.com/index.php?title=Discussion_groups . People would likely be interested there. I hope this is helpful feedback!
undefined @ 2016-01-25T20:06 (+5)
Your use of the phrase "fair market value" is a large red flag.
I've been speculating in stocks for 35 years. One of the hardest lessons I needed to learn was to not believe that last year's prices were fairer than today's prices.
Betting on mean reversion occasionally makes sense, but I've learned to only do it after careful analysis of the fundamentals (earnings, book value, etc).
undefined @ 2016-01-27T19:45 (+4)
TL;DR: Please please please don't do this. There are not many better ways to burn money.
There are three premises here:
- Russia is undervalued.
- Leverage multiplies your returns powerfully if you are risk neutral.
- RUSL is the best way to get this leveraged exposure to Russia
I'm going to ignore 1 and focus on 2/3. RUSL and RUSS (the sister ticker; RUSS is x3 short) get their exposure by holding shares of RSX.
What would have happened historically if RSX had been overvalued and you called it right, and bought RUSS (this sister ticker to RUSL; it's triple leveraged short). What about if RSX was undervalued, and bought RUSL? If you look at raw prices, here's the last four years:
2012: RSX 27.62 -> 30.68, RUSS 34.4 -> 13.77, RUSL 34.27 -> 34.4
2013: RSX 30.68 -> 27.93, RUSS 13.77 -> 12.25, RUSL 39.5 -> 28.05
2014: RSX 27.93 -> 14.79, RUSS 12.25 -> 27.41, RUSL 28.05 -> 17
2015: RSX 14.79 -> 14.23, RUSS 27.41 -> 40.59, RUSL 17 -> 10.23
This doesn't necessarily look awful, but misses a critical factor; both RUSS and RUSL have had significant reverse splits* in the past few years. RUSS had a 1 for 4 split in 2015; that year's final prices should be thought of as 40.59 / 4 = 10.1475. RUSL had a 1 for 6 split in 2014; that year's final price should be thought of as roughly 17 / 6 = 2.8333.
It gets worse. RUSS has paid no dividends for the last few years, and RUSL paid one tiny dividend in 2014. Generally leveraged ETFs do not pay dividends. RSX, meanwhile, has paid dividends of 0.519, 0.638, 0.742 and 0.729 in 2015/14/13/12 respectively. A glance at RSX's price tells you these are not small numbers. Accounting for that the following becomes apparent:
In 2012 RSX went up. If you held it you made a tidy 13.7% return (accounting for dividends). Congratulations on your successful prediction! Unless you used that prediction to buy RUSL of course, in which case you made less than 1%.
In 2013 RSX went down. If you held it you lost 6.5%. If you saw that coming and invested in RUSS, you lost 11%.
In 2014 RSX fell massively. If you held it you lost nearly 45%. If you bought RUSS in anticipation, you do actually make money this time; 124%.
In 2015 RSX moved by less than 0.5% in either direction; down 0.28%. RUSS, however, lost 63%, more than wiping out the gains in the previous year.
Obviously if you guess wrong you do even worse. Reality says that this works really badly. If your theory and reality disagree, it's generally not reality that's wrong; this goes double if you aren't an expert in the industry.
*A reverse split of, e.g. 1 for 4 means that if you owned 400 shares of RUSL the day before the split, you own 100 shares the day after. In the US this is normally used to get prices back into the 10 - 100 range that US exchanges generally prefer their stocks to trade in.
undefined @ 2016-01-25T16:35 (+3)
It looks like RUSL rebalances daily, which could end up eating a lot of your returns. I don't know much about this but I'd expect buying on margin with Interactive Brokers to be a better bet.
(See Brian Tomasik's analysis of leveraged investing.)
However, with three times leverage, even taking into account that you need to pay interest on the implicit loan, one would expect more like 50 times the money.
How did you come up with this figure? If a Russia ETF is currently at $10 and you expect it to increase to $40 within seven years, a 3x leveraged investment would increase to $120 (ignoring overhead costs and volatility drag), right? That's a 12x increase, not 50x.
undefined @ 2016-01-26T02:16 (+2)
You note it, but I don't think your calculations truly take into account the counterparty / political risk of being unable to get liquid from Russian stocks. That risk factor is built into the current low price of Russian stocks - why do you think the market is wrong? Because of the longer time horizon of young investors?
undefined @ 2016-01-25T17:09 (+2)
Where has the Russian stock market declined? The MICEX index look pretty flat.
I think much of the decline is due to falling oil prices. I don't necessarily expect them to mean revert much.
undefined @ 2016-01-25T21:18 (+2)
The iShares Russia ETF currently has a P/E of 6, which is extaordinarily low.
EDIT: P/E is 6 according to Yahoo! Finance but 16 according to iShares (h/t Ryan Carey for pointing this out). These values are not even close so I don't know what's going on here.
undefined @ 2016-01-30T14:35 (+2)
We looked into this fairly deeply and found that the lower value corresponds to the harmonic weighted average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_mean. This is the one that is relevant for mean reversion. When the valuations of the companies vary widely, the different means give very different answers. The most robust is the Shiller P/E, and for Russia, it is 5 now.