Repost: The Centre for Effective Altruism's CEO says, "Bankman-Fried doesn’t represent the ideas of effective altruism or the movement of people who support them."

By Deborah W.A. Foulkes @ 2024-03-28T16:28 (–1)

This is a linkpost to https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/28/sam-bankman-fried-effective-truism-fraud/


Stefan_Schubert @ 2024-03-28T17:17 (+53)

EA's CEO says Sam Bankmann-Fried was never an effective altruist

I don't think the piece says that. 

Jason @ 2024-03-29T02:48 (+4)

The title of the piece is: "Sam Bankman-Fried, the effective altruist who wasn’t." I don't think <the self-styled effective altruist who actually wasn't one> is an implausible interpretation of that ambiguous title. Other plausible-to-me interpretations include: <the former effective altruist who wasn't one at the end">, <the effective altruist who wasn't a true EA>, etc.

Of course, "EA's CEO" wasn't accurate (which the linkposter changed), and I would not assume that the CEO wrote the headline. But I do think a lack of clarity in the headline is at play here.

JP Addison @ 2024-03-28T16:54 (+27)

I think it's a pretty important distinction that "EA" is a question which has no CEO, while the Centre for Effective Altruism does. I recommend changing the title here.

Deborah W.A. Foulkes @ 2024-03-28T17:54 (+4)

Thanks, done!

Kaleem @ 2024-03-28T16:55 (+2)

I was going to suggest the same thing but I wanted to be able to read the article before pointing this out

lilly @ 2024-03-28T17:00 (+13)

I think it's a nice op-ed; I also appreciate the communication strategy here—anticipating that SBF's sentencing will reignite discourse around SBF's ties to EA, and trying to elevate the discourse around that (in particular by highlighting the reforms EA has undertaken over the past 1.5 years). 

Owen Cotton-Barratt @ 2024-03-28T20:09 (+5)

I haven't downvoted, but this is attracting several downvotes, and I thought I'd try to articulate some negative feelings I have here:

I guess that many of the downvotes are likely based on one or the other of these clusters (or both, although the two complaints are in some tension with one another).

(edited for clarity and to restructure the bullet point nesting)

Deborah W.A. Foulkes @ 2024-03-29T06:14 (+8)

Phew! It's much harder to write an effective (no pun intended) headline than I thought! :-). Have changed it to include an actual quote, which I hope is sufficiently representative of the article's content.

Kaleem @ 2024-03-28T16:53 (+3)

Can you post a non-paywalled version, if possible?

Deborah W.A. Foulkes @ 2024-03-28T17:59 (+3)

If you register with them you can view a number of articles for free.

Lorenzo Buonanno @ 2024-03-28T17:00 (+2)

You can use https://archive.is/ to read paywalled articles, depending on your ethical views on the matter

calebp @ 2024-03-28T20:35 (+7)

Non-paywalled version from a web archive