Effectiveness of a theory-informed documentary to reduce consumption of meat and animal products: three randomized controlled experiments

By Jacob_Peacock @ 2022-03-21T15:52 (+95)

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david_reinstein @ 2022-03-21T18:09 (+11)

with a 95% confidence interval ranging from a 6 ounce reduction to a 5 ounce increase.

Thanks for including the CI bounds, that makes it much more interpretable as an 'actual tight null' rather than an underpowered study.

CF I think that is relative to an average US consumption of about 80 oz per week ... so under +/- 10% with 95% CIs ... and the 80% CI would be obviously even tighter

(Or am I wrong, maybe this isn't that tight)

Disclaimer: Jacob and I both work at Rethink Priorities

Peter Wildeford @ 2022-03-22T14:24 (+10)

Do you think your study is sufficiently well powered to detect very small effect sizes on meat consumption? It seems plausible that effects on meat consumption would be very small in expectation plus many people would not reduce meat no matter what, so you may be needing to detect a small shift within a small subpoulation.

It looks like you have 80% power to detect an effect size of d=0.24 - which is actually substantially larger than the effects we usually find for animal interventions even on more moveable things like attitudes/signing a petition/agreeing that "factory farms aren't great". Their null result on effect on meat consumption was not at all tightly bounded: -0.3oz [-6.12oz to + 5.46oz]

So I think the different results here seem possibly explained just by the fact that you could find effects on the moveable attitudes but were underpowered to detect differences in meat consumption. I'd be curious to estimate what effect size would we be looking at if say 3-5% of people stopped eating meat (an optimistic estimate IMO).

This is perhaps further confounded by a large amount of probable noise - how good are people at estimates oz of meat eaten in different time periods, is oz of meat something that is distributed in a way to corresponds to what a t-test is assessing?

Jacob_Peacock @ 2022-03-24T21:21 (+3)

Thanks for these Peter! (Note that Peter and I both work at Rethink Priorities.)

Do you think your study is sufficiently well powered to detect very small effect sizes on meat consumption?

No, and this is by design as you point out. We did try to recruit a population that may be more predisposed to change in Study 3 and looked at even more predisposed subgroups.

substantially larger than the effects we usually find for animal interventions even on more moveable things

I think we were informed by the results of our meta-analysis, which generally found effects around this size for meat reduction interventions.

Their null result on effect on meat consumption was not at all tightly bounded: -0.3oz [-6.12oz to + 5.46oz]

Obviously, this is ultimately subjective, but this corresponds to plus or minus a burger per week, which seems reasonably precise to me. The standardized CI is [−0.17, 0.15], so bounded below a 'small effect'. And, as David points out, less stringent CIs would look even better. But to be clear, I don't have a substantive disagreement here—just a matter of interpretation.

For even more power, we could combine studies 1 & 3 in a meta-analysis (doubling the sample size). Study 3 found a treatment effect of−1.72 oz/week; 95% CI: [−8.84,5.41], so the meta-analytic estimate would probably be very small but still in the correct direction, with tighter bounds of course.

explained just by the fact that you could find effects on the moveable attitudes

Just to clarify, we measured attitudes in all 3 studies. We found an effect on intentions in Study 2 where there wasn't blinding and follow-up was immediate. Studies 3 & 4 (likely) didn't find effects on attitudes.

I'd be curious to estimate what effect size would we be looking at if say 3-5% of people stopped eating meat (an optimistic estimate IMO).

Just roughly taking David Reinstein's number of 80 oz per week (could use our control group's mean for a better estimate) and assuming no other changes, 1% abstention would give a 0.8 oz effect size and 5% 4 oz. So definitely under-powered for the low end, but potentially closer to detectable at the high end. (And keeping in mind this is at 12-day follow-up; we should expect that 1% to dwindle further at longer follow-up. With figures this low I would be pessimistic for the overall impact. But keep in mind other successful meat reduction interventions don't seem to have worked mostly through a few individuals totally abstaining!)

corresponds to what a t-test is assessing

I wouldn't expect issues in testing the difference in means given our samples sizes. But otherwise not sure what you're suggesting here.

James Ozden @ 2022-03-21T18:19 (+7)

This is really interesting, thanks for this! In particular, it was really helpful comparing it to previous less-rigorously designed surveys, as I'm sure you expected pushback using those results. I had a few quite preliminary questions:

Jacob_Peacock @ 2022-03-21T19:22 (+13)

Thank you taking the time to engage, much appreciated! Forgive my responding quickly and feel free to ask for clarification if I miss anything:

  • Definitely, could be different results with different docs. But ours showed a much stronger effect than the average of similar interventions we found in a previous meta-analysis, suggesting Good for Us is pretty good. It is probably better than Cowspiracy on changing intentions, with longer studies of excerpts of Cowspiracy also finding no effect.
  • Agree especially with your sub-point. We also tried to recruit populations more likely to be effected in Study 3. Also, see sources in my previous point.
  • Maybe but doesn't seem likely since there wasn't change in importance of animal welfare or other measures of attitudes. I would generally expect effects to decay over time rather than get stronger; our meta-analysis (weakly) supports this hypothesis in that longer time points showed smaller effects. Usefulness of a 2-3 month time point would mostly depend on attrition in my opinion.
  • I would vote other interventions. Classroom education in colleges and universities seems good as does increasing the availability of plant-based options in food service and restaurants.
Ula @ 2022-03-22T11:45 (+4)

This might be a stupid question, but do you know if anyone looked at how many new activists can a documentary make? :) I met some people who were animal activists because they watched some inspiring movies about animal suffering. I wonder if despite the fact that the movies don't work as a thing that makes people change their diet, they might make some very specific people into animal activists? :) Probably the cost of producing them would not justify the results of getting like 100 activists out of one movie. But on the other hand, if the activist will later work in an organization that leads to a major policy change in a country, maybe it is worth it? :) Just some fun speculations about flow-through effects :) I wonder also about things like effects on the press coverage of animal-related topics, effects on influencers and celebrities, effects on the perception of animal suffering (e.g. would there more likely vote on a law that e.g. forbade using crates in farming systems, or more likely sign a petition to the government). We all know by now that habits are very hard to change, but opening minds to a different viewpoint - maybe not as hard.

Jacob_Peacock @ 2022-03-22T12:54 (+2)

Yes, we did and found no meaningful increases in interest in animal activism, including voting intentions. Full questions available in in the supplementary materials.