Reducing aquatic noise as a wild animal welfare intervention

By saulius @ 2022-07-18T16:12 (+56)

Summary

Context and conclusions

I’ve spent some months trying to find a wild animal welfare (WAW) intervention that is:

The intervention that seemed most likely to satisfy these criteria was trying to reduce aquatic noise. I think that most likely, it is much less than 10% as cost-effective as chicken welfare reforms, but there is a small chance that some aquatic noise interventions could be even more cost-effective than corporate chicken welfare campaigns. Also, perhaps the cost-effectiveness bar is too high because the last funded animal welfare intervention by EA donors might not meet it.

Aquatic noise would be my personal choice if someone decided that we should fund some WAW intervention now to grow the movement. But overall, it’s unclear whether the effective animal advocacy movement should spend resources on solving this issue. Experiments investigating how noise impacts species with very many individuals (such as arctic krill and lanternfish) might inform this decision. But based on my conversations with aquatic noise experts, such experiments are likely to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and might have inconclusive results.

I think that it could be worthwhile for one or two people who care about WAW to try to have an academic career in aquatic noise (if there are no such people already), or to do WAW outreach to academics already working in the area. This could help a lot to identify how promising this cause is from the WAW perspective and to identify the best opportunities to help animals.

What aquatic noise is, and why I thought reducing it could be a promising WAW intervention

The main sources of aquatic noise are:

This list is in the order of importance that many articles seem to give to each source (e.g., Duarte et al. (2021), Širović et al. (2021), Hildebrand (2004), Williams et al. (2018)), often implicitly. I haven’t seen any analysis on the relative importance of these sources, perhaps because it depends on the situation so much.

The list doesn’t include deep-sea mining, but it may become an important noise source in the future. It also doesn’t include a possibility of an acoustic system that acts like an underwater GPS (Ghaffarivardavagh et al. (2020)), which could substantially contribute to aquatic noise. I don’t know how likely it is that such a system would be implemented.

Because of all this noise, the ocean is much louder than it used to be. For example, Hildebrand (2004) claims that “informed estimates suggest that noise levels are at least 10 times higher today than they were a few decades ago.” Note that this does not mean that animals perceive the noise as 10 times louder. Humans perceive a tenfold increase in sound pressure as only a doubling of sound loudness. It’s unclear how fishes perceive sound, especially because they perceive not only sound pressure but also the particle motion component of sound (Nedelec et al (2016)).

According to Bar-On et al. (2018, "Supplementary Material"), there are roughly 1015 wild fishes in the world. That’s about 5,000 times more than all vertebrates farmed for food, including farmed fish. And the number of marine invertebrates is many times higher than the number of fishes. Sound is very important to marine animals, partly because sound travels much farther than light underwater. It’s possible that a significant portion of marine animals (especially fish and mammals) could be at least somewhat disturbed by aquatic noise a lot of the time. I reasoned that anything that has such a huge potential for causing suffering should be closely examined.

Aquatic noise disturbs marine animals and affects ecosystems at many levels:

Other than the first effect (direct stress), it’s unclear whether these effects are overall positive or negative for animal welfare. I have encountered this same problem when analyzing most WAW interventions. That is, I found that their most important effects are on the numbers of various wild animal species and it’s very difficult to determine whether these effects are good or bad for WAW. Reducing aquatic noise seems a bit more robustly good for WAW than many other WAW interventions, partly because it seems at least plausible that the stress it causes directly could outweigh these indirect effects on animal numbers.[1] However, I am unsure if this is a valid argument for pursuing aquatic noise reduction over other WAW interventions because this seems like problem of cluelessness which applies to all interventions (WAW and otherwise).

How aquatic noise can be reduced

Most of the proposed solutions to aquatic noise involve lobbying governments and international organizations for stricter regulations. One brief list of possible ways to reduce aquatic noise is in section IV of the report Reduce the noise!, which was created for the EU by nonprofits working on aquatic noise. A longer discussion of possible actions is in Duarte et al.'s (2021) section “Pathways to healthy ocean soundscapes.” These sources highlighted two main solutions:

Duarte et al. (2021) suggest that international cooperation is very important for the adoption of these mitigation measures, as both marine ecosystems and some sound sources cross national boundaries. Lewandowski and Staaterman (2020) reviewed ten international agreements and noted that nine of them “are voluntary in nature or offer both binding and non-binding options for member nations.” The one exception applies only to the EU. The paper also describes why international agreements on aquatic noise may be difficult to achieve.

There might also be some local solutions too. For example, the Port of Vancouver reduced docking fees for quieter ships. The Reduce the noise! report claims that this has substantially decreased measured noise levels.

Here are some other ideas for tackling the issue:

Organizations that work or have worked on the issue of aquatic noise include:

Some more organizations are listed here and here, but I got the impression that most of them don’t actively work on the issue that much and are just sympathetic to the cause. Also, some organizations in these lists are now defunct.

An expert within the field told me that about 300 people are working on the issue of aquatic noise, and almost all of them are academics. Most of the research and harm mitigation efforts target the protection of marine mammals and some fishes that are commercially important to fishers. The impact of noise on most fishes and invertebrates seems to be neglected.

Impact on WAW movement building

Since the WAW movement is in its infancy, some argue that the impact of the first few interventions on shaping the WAW movement and its image is more important than the direct impact on animals. Hence, in this section, I speculate how working on aquatic noise might impact the WAW movement.

It might be good for the WAW movement-building to have an intervention that could be highlighted as a tangible example of what the movement is already doing. And it’s important that this highlighted intervention is not controversial, as it might otherwise just turn people away. While I haven’t seen a public opinion poll about this, my intuition is that most people would support most aquatic noise mitigation interventions as they are also good for the environment.

People often assume that:

Some people have suggested that it’s important that early WAW interventions challenge these beliefs, because any analysis that ignores natural wild animal suffering is very incomplete. Tackling aquatic noise would not challenge these assumptions, while something like vaccinating wild animals for their own sake could challenge it (at least if it was done in a way where many people would hear about it). However, in Šimčikas (2021), I argue that perhaps challenging these assumptions is less important in the long term because most of the expected wild animal suffering in the far future might be caused by humans (by spreading wildlife beyond Earth).

Any analysis of WAW would also be very incomplete without considering the welfare of small animals. Public campaigns to reduce aquatic noise (e.g., campaigns against seismic surveys) could help normalize the care for small wild animals by discussing how noise might cause stress to them and how this is bad for its own sake (not just because it’s bad for the environment).[2] Doing this in a context where most people already agree with our conclusions for environmental or conservationist reasons would make it more likely that people agree with those arguments, although they may not contemplate them deeply. But my guess is that the effects of such interventions on the attitudes of the public and academia would likely be very minor.

People who already support reducing aquatic noise might want to see who these new allies working on the issue are. This might lead to a few more people checking out the WAW ideas, and it would be valuable if their first impression of the movement was positive. More importantly, tackling the issue of aquatic noise would also give a good first impression of the WAW movement to conservationists and environmentalists in general — and we want people with expertise in these topics in the movement and as allies we can collaborate with. 

In terms of shaping the WAW movement, I also think it is good that reducing aquatic noise focuses on the ocean because that is where the vast majority of animals live. Working on aquatic noise interventions could also help incentivize more research into invertebrate and fish stress, which might be important for the movement in the long term. For example, I have seen studies using various techniques to measure stress for these animals due to aquatic noise concerns. Perhaps these techniques could be reused in other contexts.

Seismic surveys

I asked someone from Ocean Conservation Research about the biggest victory of aquatic noise mitigation efforts so far. He said that it’s preventing (or at least delaying) seismic surveys along the East Coast of the US that were planned for 2012-2020. Hence, I investigated the effects of seismic surveys deeper. Note that I don’t know if it was really public campaigns that prevented those surveys and one reviewer thought that it seemed unlikely.

Seismic surveys use devices called airguns to produce extremely loud explosive impulses to map the seafloor over large areas of the ocean[3] in order to find oil or gas. These explosions might happen every 10 seconds for weeks or months without stopping. See this short video for an explanation of how it works. 

Marine animals are stressed by the noise for seismic surveys. I tried to get a sense of just how much they are stressed from existing studies. Overall, there are huge knowledge gaps in this area, but here is what existing studies suggest:

See the appendix for a more detailed analysis of how seismic surveys affect fishes and invertebrates.

Seismic surveys are more often done around coastal areas where fish density is probably higher. Since there are so many fishes, if a significant percentage of them are negatively affected by seismic surveys, that could be a big animal welfare concern. The number of small marine invertebrates is many times higher than the number of fishes. If at least some marine invertebrates are capable of suffering, and suffer as a result of these surveys, then this could be a very important animal welfare concern. Note that the same can be said about other sources of noise like shipping.

I don’t know how easy it is to do something about all this potential suffering. Since most of the talk about aquatic noise is how they affect big mammals, most of the harm mitigation efforts are targeted at them too. For example, if a whale or a dolphin is spotted in a sensitive range, a seismic survey is temporarily stopped. However, such pauses prolong the amount of time sound is in the ocean, which may increase harm to other animals. Perhaps animal advocates could advocate for harm mitigation measures that help all animals more.

It might also be possible to reduce the amount of seismic surveying. As mentioned above, I chose to focus on seismic surveys because of a claim that a large-scale seismic surveying plan was stopped by activists and scientists. The person I spoke to about it also claimed that the campaign he was a part of only spent about $250,000 on the effort. However, he also mentioned that he was raising awareness about this for many years prior and that there were other efforts to amplify the message. Even so, overall costs are probably still in the range of one or few million dollars to stop months or years of seismic surveying.

I haven’t been able to verify that the efforts of this campaign were really instrumental in stopping the surveys. It might also be that the surveys will still be done in the future and the campaign simply delayed them. Or it could be that surveys were stopped or delayed for unrelated reasons. Nevertheless, I tried to estimate the cost-effectiveness of this campaign, assuming that it really did stop seismic surveys. My reasoning was that if that effort was cost-effective from an animal welfare perspective, then it’s reasonable to expect that we could discover other cost-effective things to do in the space of aquatic noise. 

The estimate turned out to be very speculative and quite complex. If anyone is interested, you can see the estimate here and described in text here. According to the estimate, the campaign potentially directly prevented one year of fish suffering per dollar spent. For comparison, I estimated that corporate campaigns to improve conditions for farmed chickens affect 9 to 120 years of chicken life per dollar spent. However, I think that these chicken campaigns are an outlier and that we should set the bar for worthwhile animal welfare interventions much lower. 

There are many reasons why my cost-effectiveness estimate might be incorrect:

Also, even if my cost-effectiveness estimate was correct, it would be quite unclear what that means. I got the impression from Ocean Conservation Research that another win of this magnitude in the immediate future is unlikely as there are currently no other plans in the U.S. to produce this much aquatic noise that could plausibly be stopped. That said, as mentioned above, there have been some other seemingly successful campaigns to stop seismic surveys in Croatia and Spain, as well as an ongoing campaign in South Africa. Hence, similar efforts in the future might be possible.

Furthermore, if the campaign analyzed above really prevented these large-scale seismic surveys, by far the biggest effect might be reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Seismic surveys are the first step to find oil and gas. If it’s found, then offshore drilling likely follows. And I imagine that the more oil is available, the more oil is burned. This would have many effects on everything, including WAW. Offshore drilling might also cause oil spills which also have far-reaching consequences. This is not my area of expertise at all and I did not look into it, but it seems to me that preventing that much emissions for less than $1 million would be a very cost-effective climate change intervention. There is a slogan for this general approach to fight climate change: #KeepItInTheGround.

Perhaps there might be fewer seismic surveys in the future even without us doing anything as the world is trying to move on from using oil. Seismic surveys might also be used for deep-sea mining of some materials (Martin et al. (2021)) but I’m not sure what the scale of such surveys could be.

Questions for further research

If someone were to look into aquatic noise more, it might be better to look into shipping noise. Duarte et al. (2021) claims, “it may be easier to instigate noise reduction of activities that produce sound as a byproduct (e.g., shipping, construction), rather than intentionally (e.g., seismic surveys, military activities), through technological and/or regulatory measures, as demonstrated by recent progress in the shipping industry.” Also, ships seem to be the most important source of noise and it is predicted to continue growing (Kaplan & Solomon (2016)). When analyzing seismic surveys, I focused more on short-term stress caused by noise, but it’s possible that chronic stress is more important.

I considered suggesting funding studies to figure out whether efforts to reduce noise should be supported by animal welfare funders. For example, funding experiments in which fishes (or invertebrates) are put in a tank in the ocean, and their stress level is monitored as noise from ships varies. For fishes, stress could be measured by measuring cardiac output or cortisol levels. Similar experiments have been done (e.g., Jain-Schlaepfer et al. (2018)). The experiments I’ve found didn’t use the most populous species of aquatic animals and the most important sources of noise. Also, sound sources were often very close to fishes, but I think that for WAW it would be more important to know how noises that are further away affect fishes. I asked some researchers how much an experiment of this kind with fishes would cost, and they answered that it would be under $1 million USD, implying that it would cost hundreds of thousands USD. The estimate assumed that non-harmful methods would need to be employed, which increased the estimated cost significantly. Either way, I tentatively think that the price might be too high for the information value such experiments would provide. This is partly because results might be inconclusive and might not generalize to other species and environments.[4] 

Appendix: How seismic surveys affect animals

In the main article, I briefly described the effects seismic surveys have on fishes. In this appendix, I go into more depth on this topic.

Fish

In general, the effects of seismic surveys on fishes are mostly unknown (Popper & Hawkins (2019)). Nevertheless, available studies do give us some information about how much fish may be affected, and I analyze that information below. 

In this section, I mention distances at which fish may be impacted by seismic noise. Note that the distance that sounds travel underwater can vary a lot depending on factors like depth, ocean floor type, temperature, etc. Hence, the distance at which airguns will affect fishes is not at all consistent even if the same types of airguns are used and the same species is observed. Nevertheless, I think these distances are indicative of what the radius of the sound might be. I pay special attention to the distance of impact because as the distance increases, the affected area (and hence the affected number of fish) increases exponentially since sound travels to all directions.

Studies that show minor or no impact

Meekan et al. (2021) claims that “the scientific evidence that catch rates are impacted by seismic surveys is often contradictory, with experimental studies providing contrasting results.” I very much agree with this assessment. These contrasting results are best illustrated by the table S1 from the Supporting Infromation Appendix of Meekan et al. (2021).  The table doesn’t include studies that examine startle or alarm responses, nor lab studies that examine stress hormones. Startle and alarm responses show us when fishes can detect noise, but it’s unclear whether they indicate that fishes experience anything but a transient suffering from the responses. Multiple lab studies that examine stress hormones show that fishes can be stressed by recordings of ship or seismic survey noise.[5] However, according to an aquatic noise expert I spoke to, lab conditions are too different from the conditions in the ocean to draw almost any conclusions about how fish are affected in the ocean.
 

The aforementioned table also doesn’t include Meekan et al. (2021) itself, which in my opinion provides the strongest evidence against seismic surveys affecting most fishes in a major way. It observed many species of fish during an actual seismic survey and found little to no effects on the abundance, composition, size structure, movement, or behavior of demersal fish (most of the aquatic noise studies seem to be on demersal fish; I’m not fully sure why, but perhaps it’s because they are commercially important and fishers noticed decreased catches during and after seismic surveys). Meekan et al. (2021) also suggested that, “given similar physical environments (notably water depths) and life history stages, it is likely that our results are applicable to other locations and species of the same families of fishes.” However, note that Meekan et al. (2021) was funded by the oil industry.

Other studies that made me think that most likely seismic surveys don’t majorly impact most fishes include:

Note that Popper et al. (2016) and Wardle et al. (2001) are also at least partially funded by the oil industry. Given large economic incentives of oil companies for there to be studies showing that seismic surveys have little effect on wildlife, I am somewhat concerned about the reliability of these studies that find no effect.

Studies that show a major impact

The studies below indicate that seismic surveys can affect some fish at large distances. If the radius at which seismic surveys cause stress can be as large as the studies below suggest, the number of animals affected could be huge. Compared to studies that show minor impact above, fewer of the studies below seem to have been funded by the oil and gas industry.

Studies that examine fish abundance or catch

I think that studies that examine fish abundance or catch are informative because if fishes reduce their feeding or choose to not enter or travel away from a noisy area, it shows that the noise probably causes them significant discomfort. Here is an overview of such studies:

Studies that examine startle and alarm responses

Some studies examine whether fish exhibit startle and alarm responses when exposed to sound. Here is how Pearson et al. (1992) describes them:

"Startle responses were either flexions of the body followed by rapid swimming (olive rockfish) or a series of shudders and tremors with each airgun discharge "

"We also observed a combination of general increases in activity and changes in schooling and water position, all of which we have categorized as “alarm” on the basis of analogy with the descriptions in Blaxter et al. (1981)."

"The alarm responses observed here appear to be extensions of behaviours typically seen or expected in escape from predators. Tight mills and “flash expansions” or loss of polarization have been observed in schools under attack by predators."

I am not sure how much can be inferred from short startle or alarm responses, but they likely indicate at least short-term stress. Here are studies that found fishes exhibiting these responses far away from seismic airguns:

Invertebrates

The current evidence seem to suggest that aquatic noise does not have a lot of impact on most invertebrates (with some exceptions like cuttlefish). See excerpts from overviews below.

Hawkins et al. (2012):

"One question that is very hard to deal with is the potential effect of man-made sounds on invertebrates. There are almost no data on hearing by invertebrates, and the few suggestions of hearing indicates that it is for low frequencies and only to the particle motion component of the sound field (e.g., Mooney et al. 2010, 2012). There are no data that indicate whether masking occurs in invertebrates or to suggest whether man-made sounds would have any impact on invertebrate behavior. The one available study, on effects of seismic exploration on shrimp, suggests no behavioral effects from sounds with a source level of about 196 dB re 1 µPa rms at 1 m (Andriguetto-Filho et al. 2005)."

"There are very few studies of the effects of seismic sounds on catches of invertebrates. Christian et al. (2003) examined changes in CPUE for snow crab caught in traps and before, during, and after exposure to an array of airguns. It was concluded that there was no detectable response in terms of the trap CPUE."

Carroll et al. (2017):

"Previous field-based studies on adult populations revealed no evidence of increased mortality due to airgun exposure in scallops up to ten months after exposure (Parry et al., 2002, Harrington et al., 2010, Przeslawski et al., 2016), clams two days after exposure (La Bella et al., 1996), or lobsters up to eight months after exposure (Payne et al., 2007, Day et al., 2016a). Similarly, there was no evidence of mortality-associated population effects such as reduced abundance or catch rates in plankton a few hours after exposure (Parry et al., 2002), reef-associated invertebrates four days after exposure (Wardle et al., 2001), snow crabs up to 12 days after exposure (Christian et al., 2003), shrimp two days after exposure (Andriguetto-Filho et al., 2005), or lobsters weeks or years after exposure (Parry and Gason, 2006)."

"Behavioural studies on the response of marine invertebrates to seismic sound are also dominated by those using startle responses. Jetting and inking in squid have been observed during airgun operations, with startle responses occurring more frequently as sound levels increase (Fewtrell and McCauley, 2012), and scallops have shown a distinctive flinching response although no energetically costly responses such as swimming (Day et al., 2016a). Laboratory studies have also found inking and jetting of cuttlefish at frequencies of 80–300 Hz, sound levels above 140 dB re 1 μPa rms and 0.01 m·s‐ 2; although these responses disappeared at higher frequencies and lower sound levels (Samson et al., 2014). Unlike cephalopods, decapods only exhibited alarm behaviour when they were < 10 cm away from the sound source (Goodall et al., 1990) and showed no such behaviour in response to seismic sound at distances of 1 m or more (Goodall et al., 1990, Christian et al., 2003). Sound avoidance behaviours have a more lasting impact on populations than startle responses, particularly if animals migrate out of an area in which seismic surveys are conducted. Previous studies have found that neither squid (McCauley et al., 2000), snow crabs (Christian et al., 2003), nor shrimp (Celi et al., 2013) move to avoid low-frequency sounds, although the latter study was conducted in a tank in which shrimp may have been unable to detect the direction of the sound."

Credits

This research is a project of Rethink Priorities. It was written by Saulius Šimčikas. Thanks to Michael Stocker for extensive consultations. Thanks to Jason Schukraft, Kim Cuddington, Marcus A. Davis, Michael Stocker, and William McAuliffe for helpful feedback on drafts of this article. Thanks to Katy Moore for copy-editing. All mistakes are my own. Also thanks to Ozy Brennan who wrote an article about aquatic noise that brought my attention to the issue. If you like our work, please consider subscribing to our newsletter. You can see more of our work here.

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Footnotes

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    For example, Duarte et al. (2021) claims that, “Although there is clear evidence that noise compromises hearing ability and induces physiological and behavioral changes in marine animals, there is lower confidence that anthropogenic noise increases the mortality of marine animals and the settlement of their larvae.” In general, it seems possible that aquatic noise causes suffering and changes the species composition, but doesn’t change fish and invertebrate biomass much as it’s not the limiting factor for populations. This would make the effects of aquatic noise robustly negative for animal welfare.

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    Note that we currently don’t have enough scientific evidence to support the claims about harm to invertebrates and most species of fishes. We can just speculate based on evidence about a few examined species that noise may harm some of these animals. But despite that, I’ve seen multiple organizations that claimed that noise affects all marine animals.

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    In the case of surveys that were planned along the East Coast of the US, the planned seismic survey area was 854,779 km^2.

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    Hawkins et al. (2012) claims that “It is not likely that a single threshold for onset of a behavioral response will be found because behavior is so varied between and within species, including between fishes of different ages and sizes, and the motivation of the fishes exposed to man-made sound sources will also vary. [...] Behavioral effects will be specific to the species and the habitat, and even time of year.” The same may also apply to stress response.

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    An overview of lab studies that measure stress hormones such as cortisol: some studies showed that if you put various fishes in a bucket or an aquarium and play sounds to them, their cortisol levels increase. Nichols et al. (2015) found that “the cortisol concentration of giant kelpfish was elevated only in response to playback of noise recorded at the smallest distances from the boat engine (4 and 6 m), which produced the highest sound pressure inside aquaria (141.9 and 136.9 dB rms re 1 μPa, respectively).” Wysocki et al. (2006) showed that the three tested fish species had elevated cortisol levels if exposed to a ship noise (153 dB re 1 μPa) for 30 minutes. However, such experiments cannot be used to directly determine how a fish would respond to aquatic noise in the wild for a variety of reasons (Popper et al. (2019), Nichols et al. (2015)). The most important reason seems to be that all fishes are likely to perceive the particle motion component of sound (in addition to sound pressure) (Nedelec et. al. (2016)). Particle motion is expected to occur at higher levels in an acoustic environment created by playback of sounds into an aquarium compared to open water. It seems that this may only cause more stress to fishes compared to the conditions in the wild, so perhaps the results of these studies could be used to determine the upper bound of how much fishes may be stressed by various sound pressure levels. 

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    The sound propagation model used in this study seems different from other sources, and I’m not sure why. However, this is not my area of expertise so I don't know what to make of it.


MichaelStJules @ 2022-09-15T15:03 (+4)

Looks promising!

One interesting but worrying possibility is that aquatic noise reduction seems robustly positive if and only if the population effects are small, which seems to hold if and only if non-welfare-interested environmentalists and conservationists should have little interest in it. So, we might not want to count on them as we find out more about the population effects, or we'll abandon the intervention while they continue to pursue it. Still, many conservationists/environmentalists could be interested in wild animal welfare for its own sake, so even if the population effects turn out to be small.

Ren Springlea @ 2022-07-20T10:26 (+3)

I find this post subjectively very cool. I did my PhD in a marine biology lab which had other scientists doing research on ocean "soundscapes" - which includes reducing the types of noise you talk about here, but also increasing the types of noises that are beneficial for wild animals (from a purely conservation perspective). For example, one colleague had a project where they installed underwater speakers, playing recorded reef noises, on a newly restored reef and showed that this increased the settlement of juvenile invertebrates onto the reef. This sort of work wasn't the focus of this article, but it might have implications for the welfare of wild juvenile invertebrates and does seem pretty tractable. This wasn't the focus of my own work (which was in a different area in marine policy) but happy to chat further over DM if anybody reading this article is feeling inspired.

Jeremy Henderson @ 2022-07-18T20:49 (+3)

This is a great write-up, thank you for sharing it. Overall, I think I share your skepticism about this as a viable cause area. I'm new to (but very interested in) WAW, and I think it's very interesting to view this issue from that perspective. I've come across the issue in my work (confidentiality precludes me from going into many details) and it looks like your understanding of the issue is spot-on. 

A few general points:

Vgvt @ 2022-07-19T03:40 (+1)

Do you think marine-mammal/cartilaginous fish/ other slow reproducing ocean megafauna, would be useful for WAW in themselves?

So I know whales boost ocean productivity through nutrient cycling, and therefore increase ocean biomass ,but how does this compare to There impact as consumers, they take up so many calories that otherwise would be used by smaller fast reproducing organisms, which force do you think is larger???

Maybe part of the issue is that sound is invisible?? ( getting people to care about it?)Maybe images sonograms would help,? Or even a stylized “wave” of sound in some sort of animation disturbing whales?

Jeremy Henderson @ 2022-07-19T15:39 (+2)

I'm not a scientist, so I don't have any specific information about the impact of marine mammals on ocean productivity. My gut instinct is that they probably serve a pretty valuable function to the ecosystem, but that's really based on nothing and shouldn't be taken seriously.

I do think that sound being invisible and underwater is a big part of the issue. And beyond that, you have to get people to understand the impacts that underwater noise has on marine animals. Honestly, I think maybe the way to go on marketing would be something more anthropocentric: getting people thinking about how unpleasant it is to live next to a construction site or an airport might be a good entry point into the issue. 

emre kaplan @ 2022-07-18T19:25 (+3)

Great research!

Benjamin Stewart @ 2022-07-19T01:38 (+1)

I remember a visceral introduction to this idea with this essay, describing a fall in cortisol in whale poop when shipping paused after 9/11:
 https://aeon.co/essays/what-would-happen-in-the-ocean-if-humanity-went-quiet