Effective language-learning for effective altruists

By Tao @ 2024-03-19T00:42 (+43)

This is a (late!) Draft Amnesty Week draft. It may not be polished, up to my usual standards, fully thought through, or fully fact-checked. 

Commenting and feedback guidelines: 

  1. This draft lacks the polish of a full post, but the content is almost there. The kind of constructive feedback you would normally put on a Forum post is very welcome. 

Epistemic status: Tentative — I have thought about this for some time (~2 years) and have firsthand experience, but have done minimal research into the literature.

TL;DR: Language learning is probably not the best use of your time. Some exceptions might be (1) learning English as a non-native speaker, (2) if you are particularly apt at learning languages, (3) if you see it as leisure and so minimize opportunity costs, (4) if you are aiming at regional specialist roles (e.g., China specialist) and are playing the long game, and more. If you still want to do it, I propose some ways of greatly speeding up the process: practicing artificial immersion by maximizing exposure and language input, learning a few principles of linguistics (e.g., IPA, arbitrariness), learning vocabulary through spaced repetition and active recall (e.g., with Anki), and more.

Motivation: I'd bet that EAs are unusually interested in learning languages (definitely compared to the general population, probably compared to demographically similar populations). This raises two big questions: (1) Does learning a foreign language make sense, from an impact perspective? (2) If it does, how does one do it most effectively?

My goals are: 

Is this a draft? The reason I am publishing this (late!) on Draft Amnesty Week is that I believe a quality post on effective language learning should draw from the second language acquisition (SLA) literature and make evidence-based claims. I don't have time to do this, so this post is based almost entirely on my own experience and learning from successful polyglots (see "learn from others" below). Still, I think most people approach language learning in such an inefficient way that this post will be valuable to many.

Who am I to say? Spanish is my native language. I have learned two foreign languages: English to level C2 and German to level B2.[1] I learned both of these faster than my peers,[2] which I mostly attribute to using the principles detailed below. Many readers will have much more experience learning languages, so  I encourage you to add useful tips or challenge mine in the comments!

What are some costs and benefits?

This is not an exhaustive list!

Benefits: 

Costs: 

So when should an EA learn a language?

Here are some factors that contribute to language-learning making sense for someone:

Principles of Effective Language-Learning

If learning a language makes sense for you after all, here are some ideas to speed up the process (and make it more enjoyable).

"Bad" intuitions"Better" intuitions
You can only learn a language as a child.Learning a language as a child is easier under the right circumstances, but you can always learn a language.
You can only learn a language in the country where it's spoken.You can absolutely learn a language while never visiting a country where it's spoken.
Strong foreign accents are inherent, bad, and impossible to change.Foreign accents are changeable (to a degree), and are not bad so long as they don't make it hard to understand you.
Imitating a native's way of speaking is going too far or disrespectful or cringey. Imitating a native speaker's way of speaking is a great way to learn to sound natural. 
Formally studying a language is the main or only way of getting better at it. Simply reading or listening to a language in its natural form will help you learn -- no/limited textbook or formal study is necessary.
Practicing speaking is the most important thing.Output ability (speaking, writing) often emerges after lots of input (listening, reading).
Making mistakes is embarrassing. If you're not making mistakes you're not practicing enough.
I failed at learning a language in high school, so I'm bad at languages.Your high school was probably subpar at teaching languages. It is true that some people are better than others at this, but high school performance is a very noisy indicator.
If I can't perfectly understand this book/movie in my target language, I should read/watch it in my native language to avoid missing out.You should be comfortable not understanding things or losing out on some of the meaning. The struggle will help you learn.
More IPA For American Consonants: Place, Manner, & Voicing

 

  1. ^

    The standard scale for European languages is the CEFR (Common European Framework of Reference). Language levels range from A1 (complete beginner) to C2 (better than the average native speaker). B2 is high-intermediate. For more information: https://www.languagetesting.com/cefr-scale. 

  2. ^

    Just to establish some ethos: I set my high school's highest score on the standardized Cambridge English exam. I later received a diploma for having one of the highest regional scores. After taking two intro German courses in college I skipped a full year of German and took an advanced (C1)  course. At least for German, this seems almost entirely like a product of using the right learning method (for which I advocate here), NOT inherent ability.

  3. ^

    See the Defense Language Institute's widely used categorization for how much time it takes to learn a language to the same operational standard: https://www.ausa.org/articles/dlis-language-guidelines. The exact amount of time will vary depending on your time commitment per week and desired proficiency, so focus on the relative differences in expected time commitment.

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Charlotte Darnell @ 2024-03-19T15:20 (+5)

I enjoyed reading this, thanks!

Denis @ 2024-03-20T09:04 (+4)

Wow, I expected to disagree with a lot of what you wrote, but instead I loved it, and especially I appreciated how you applied the more general concept of making good use of your time to language-learning. 

I really liked your list of reasons to learn a language, and that you didn't limit it to when it is "useful", which is so often the flaw I see in articles about language, which focus on how many dollars more you could earn if you spoke Mandarin or Spanish. 

I fully agree that if you do not get energized by learning languages, if it's a chore that leaves you tired and frustrated, then maybe your energy is better spent on other vital tasks. 

One way to look at this is on a spectrum. On the left are things that are vitally important and that you do even if they are no fun. Like taxes, work-outs or dental visits. On the right are things that energize or relax you, like watching football or doing Wordle, where you don't look for any "value" in them, you just enjoy them. 

The secret of a happy, successful life is to find as many activities as possible that you could fit at both ends of the spectrum. Like playing soccer, which is both fun and healthy. 

For some of us, learning foreign languages is in this category. I started learning for fun, out of intellectual curiosity, but they have turned out helping me in many tangible ways that I hadn't expected. 

But for many people, learning languages doesn't fit at either end. You don't enjoy it, and, at least at the level you're reaching, it doesn't add much value to your life. For those, it probably isn't a good use of your time compared to the many opportunities out there. 

It would be great to get more people to read your article and think about it and how it applies to them - maybe even not just related to languages, but to all the things that we're encouraged to do because they are "good" in some abstract sense. 






 

taoburga @ 2024-03-21T20:36 (+2)

Thanks for your comment! I also think EAs sometimes fall into the trap of not considering their own interests and things that make them happy as much as they should. The importance of personal interest and enjoyment in language learning is hard to overemphasize.

mcnificat @ 2024-03-20T05:36 (+4)

Wow, what a useful post! Helped me sort out a lot of things I've been struggling with for a long time. I particularly appreciate the 'bad institutions' section.

Btw, do you have any tips on how to teach language to small kids?

taoburga @ 2024-03-21T20:49 (+2)

Glad it was useful! 

I don't feel qualified to give advice on teaching a language to small kids, although I do have a few thoughts. Please take them with a grain of salt, as I've never done this.

I'm assuming you mean your kids, not kids in a classroom? If this is the case:

  • It seems like language interaction is important for kids, so I'm skeptical of the "having them watch cartoons in TL instead of NL" approach, unless they already have a solid understanding of the language.
  • Do you speak this language yourself? If so, you could try to increasingly only speak this language with your kid. E.g., my cousins grew up strictly speaking French with their mother, German with their father, and English in school. Now they're fully fluent in all 3.
  • If you don't speak the language yourself, I'd bet it'll be much harder to make it happen. You could send them to private lessons (depending on age and disposition). You could also try to hire a caretaker/nanny (again depending on age) that speaks the TL and is willing to speak with the kid in that language. I knew a couple of people who spoke decent Spanish because they had a Spanish-speaking nanny growing up.

That's all I could think of. That said, I think a quick Google/YouTube search might uncover much more valuable guidance on this!

K.F. Martin @ 2024-03-31T17:13 (+2)

Thank you for the thoughtful insight! It's always astounded me how expertly some multilinguals on the internet speak English, sometimes as fluently as myself, despite it being not being their "first language", like my Israeli friend on Telegram who's never been to an Anglophone place yet I talk to like we've been neighbors for a decade. It's interesting, and good news, to hear one such wizard endorse Anki and the study of linguistics and grammar as part of their optimal path, and place value on artificial immersion, as I'm still doing the phone language-switchy thing.

For four months last year I did over half of Russian Babbel, joined two Discord servers, played some translated games, and started thinking what I could in Russian. Forming sentences on the spot is still nigh-impossible, but reading and listening is easier. Indeed, the German I learned six years ago comes a whole lot more naturally for input and output still. It must be is those long words in a new script, like представляющий, and their manifold of conjugations.