Ancient precedents of longtermist thinking

By Impatient_Longtermist 🔸🌱 @ 2026-01-18T12:47 (+5)

Introduction

I’ve generally thought of longtermist philosophy as a distinctively modern and Western philosophic development, dependent on relatively recent conceptual innovations: such as welfarist focused value-systems, and scientific understanding of astronomical timeframes extending billions of years into the future. These seemed like prerequisites for taking the far future seriously as a domain of moral concern.

However, while reading about Buddhism, I’ve encountered some striking parallels that challenge this assumption. Several varieties of Buddhism exhibit features that bear surprising resemblance to modern longtermist priorities: concern with extremely long time horizons, institutional efforts to preserve civilizational knowledge, and focus on reducing suffering for beings across vast stretches of time. 

This post examines these parallels and considers where the comparison breaks down, as well as covering why this might matter in the conclusion. (Warning- I do not claim to be an expert on philosophy or Buddhism, so I apologise in advance if I end mischaracterising views here.)

Structural similarities


1. Exceptional temporal scope


Buddhist cosmology operates on timescales that dwarf typical human historical thinking. The concept of kalpas—cosmic cycles lasting billions of years—provides a framework for thinking about the deep future. The prophecy of Maitreya, the future Buddha whose arrival is projected inconceivably far into the future, demonstrates genuine engagement with what happens on civilizational and even cosmic timescales.

This stands in notable contrast to most other religious and philosophical traditions, which tend to focus on timescales of centuries or millennia at most, or alternatively posit an imminent end-times scenario. 

2.  Interventions for longterm civilisational resilience

Perhaps the strongest parallel lies in concrete preservation efforts. Buddhist institutions have undertaken remarkable projects to transmit the Dharma across time:
    âˆ™    The Chinese Buddhist canon carved onto stone slabs and sealed in mountain caves
    âˆ™    The Tripiáš­aka Koreana, carved on over 80,000 wooden blocks in the 13th century
    âˆ™    Massive printing projects to ensure text survival and distribution

These efforts weren’t primarily for contemporary practitioners but explicitly for future generations who might otherwise lose access to the teachings. This mirrors modern longtermist interventions like the Svalbard Global Seed Vault or efforts to preserve scientific knowledge against civilizational disruption, but almost a millennium before hand.

The motivation is explicitly about ensuring that beings in the far future potentially after periods of civilizational collapse or dark ages—can still access the path to liberation.


3. Concern with suffering across time

Buddhism’s fundamental concern is with the suffering of all sentient beings. Combined with beliefs in rebirth and the vast scope of time, this creates concern for beings who will exist in the future. The focus on transmitting the Dharma forward reflects an understanding that current actions can affect the welfare of beings not yet born.


While Buddhism lacks the concept of existential risk (since the universe is seen as eternal and cyclical), there is something analogous to s-risk concern—worry about vast amounts of suffering persisting into the far future if the Dharma is lost.


Key dissimilarities:

Despite these parallels, several fundamental distinctions separate Buddhist thinking from modern longtermism:

Conclusion- okay, so what? 

Some historical manifestations of Buddhism do seem to exhibit a form of proto-longtermist thinking. The temporal scope, concern with future suffering, and concrete knowledge preservation efforts are interesting  similarities.

This suggests that longtermist thinking, in various forms, may arise independently when traditions take seriously both long time horizons and the importance of current choices for the far future. This could suggest that concern for the far future isn’t a peculiar modern invention but can arise organically from certain philosophical commitments—suggesting longtermist intuitions may be more robust and cross-culturally grounded than sometimes assumed.

On a personal level, I find it motivating to think of present day longtermists tapping into millennium-spanning principles. The example of ancient historical analogues (such as Chinese Buddhist monks preserving thousands of documents with the intention of preserving knowledge to reduce the suffering of future generations) makes me somewhat more hopeful about longtermist interventions to influence the far future.


SummaryBot @ 2026-01-19T15:14 (+2)

Executive summary: The author argues that some historical forms of Buddhism display proto-longtermist features—such as extremely long time horizons, concern for future suffering, and deliberate preservation of knowledge—while also emphasizing important differences from modern longtermism, suggesting that concern for the far future may arise independently across cultures rather than being a uniquely modern idea.

Key points:

  1. The author initially assumed longtermism depended on modern Western concepts like welfarism and scientific understandings of deep time but found parallels in Buddhist thought that challenge this view.
  2. Buddhist cosmology’s use of kalpas and prophecies like Maitreya’s arrival show engagement with civilizational and cosmic timescales far beyond typical historical horizons.
  3. Buddhist institutions undertook large-scale, durable knowledge preservation projects—such as stone-carved canons and the Tripiṭaka Koreana—explicitly aimed at benefiting far-future generations.
  4. Buddhism’s focus on reducing suffering for all sentient beings, combined with beliefs in rebirth, creates moral concern for beings across vast future time spans.
  5. The author notes key differences from modern longtermism, including the absence of existential risk, a focus on spiritual rather than material interventions, and emphasis on individual liberation over aggregate welfare.
  6. The author concludes that these similarities suggest longtermist intuitions may be cross-cultural and historically recurring, and finds this motivating for confidence in present-day longtermist efforts.

 

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David T @ 2026-01-18T15:22 (+2)

This stands in notable contrast to most other religious and philosophical traditions, which tend to focus on timescales of centuries or millennia at most, or alternatively posit an imminent end-times scenario. 

Feels like the time of perils hypothesis (and associated imperatives to act and magnitude of reward scenario) popular with longtermists maps rather more closely to the imminent end times scenario common to many eras and cultures than Buddhist views of short and long cycles and an eventual[1] Maitreya Buddha...

 

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    there have also been Buddhists acting on the belief that the Maitreya was imminent or the claim that they were the Maitreya...