What are the best defenses of human lives being worth living?
By Tejas Subramaniam @ 2024-01-24T21:41 (+9)
It seems like an assumption many effective altruists have (including myself) is that human lives are, on net, worth living. However, many people (e.g., many antinatalists) think that most human lives are net negative. I’m curious if there are any good/comprehensive defenses of the idea that human lives today, on average, are worth living by EAs (or by other people) that you’d recommend!
Brad West @ 2024-01-24T23:42 (+8)
I think there are a number of arguments that you could make regarding people choosing not to commit suicide despite life being net negative, like fear, not wanting to cause harm to loved ones, etc. But the mere fact that suicide rates are not much higher suggests that people are not exercising an exit option. If lives were consistently and significantly net negative, I'd expect much more suicide.
MichaelStJules @ 2024-01-25T06:43 (+4)
Most people judge their lives to be worth living. It seems alienating and paternalistic to disagree with them. The right theory shouldn't be alienating, or at least not so alienating to frequently disagree with people on something this important about their own welfare.
FWIW, this position is compatible with person-affecting views, including asymmetric ones, as well as antinatalism and some versions of negative utilitarianism. A life can be worth living or continuing, without it being the case that it would be worth starting. I find preference-affecting views (including asymmetric ones) to be the least alienating.