What I mean by "funding overhang" (and why it doesn't mean money isn't helpful)

By Owen Cotton-Barratt @ 2022-07-10T23:53 (+78)

I was a bit surprised by this post arguing against using the term "funding overhang". In part it made me realise that others are maybe thinking of the term differently than I am. I'm not sure whether we should stop using the term, but I thought I'd quickly write-up my understanding of the term, so we could have that as background for the conversation.

My basic picture is that there's some flow of people turning up willing to do projects, and some flow of money turning up willing to fund them. Then there's a matching process, and some work happens.

Labour and funding in balance with each other

If they're roughly balanced, increasing the flow of either has some effect. Increasing the flow of labour, as well as displacing less talented labour, may also drive wages down, and result in more total work. Increasing the flow of money can help to fund reasonable marginal people, or attract more people to the field.

Labour overhang

In the case of a labour overhang, there are many more qualified people turning up than there is money to support them. This means that:

I think that many academic fields have something of a labour overhang (e.g. lots of competition for PhD slots, and lots of competition for professorships among PhDs).

Funding overhang

In the case of a funding overhang, there's significantly more money turning up willing to pay for good projects than there are people to execute on them. This means that:

I think that direct work in longtermist EA is in something of a funding overhang regime at the moment, and has been for a while (but wasn't 10 years ago), and will be for a while (but likely not indefinitely).

Does this mean money isn't helpful for longtermist EA? No!

The longtermist war chest

The most robust reason is that extra money will typically not be deployed this year, but held for deployment in some future year. We're likely at some point to stop being in a funding-overhang situation, and then marginal money will be important. (It's possible to stop being in a funding-overhang situation even while there are large amounts of money left in the war-chest that aren't being spent, since people spending the chest have to make judgement calls about the margins of allocation today vs in future years.)

Some bits of longtermist work may (correctly) have funding overhangs while others do not

Another reason that funding overhangs don't necessarily mean that money isn't helpful is that there are multiple things we might spend money on. It could well be that one domain (like hiring alignment researchers into well-run orgs) has a funding overhang, while another still-useful domain can absorb a lot of money (even if marginal hires are less useful) and doesn't have a funding overhang.


But if there is a funding overhang for everything you might donate to, at least that means that you shouldn't donate to object-level charities today? Still no!


Max Clarke @ 2022-07-11T12:53 (+13)

This doesn't address the elephant which is "quality" of talent. EA has a funding overhang with respect to some implicit "quality line" at which people will be hired. Getting more people who can demonstrate talent over that line (where the placement of each specific line is very dependent on context) lowers the funding overhang, but only getting more people under the line doesn't change anything.

Owen Cotton-Barratt @ 2022-07-11T13:03 (+5)

Right. (Which is significantly about level of context not just innate properties of the people; also as I alluded to briefly depends on the coordination problem of finding the right roles for people.)

But I don't really think introducing this changes the concept of funding overhangs?

Max Clarke @ 2022-07-11T23:36 (+1)

Agree with all that yep, and perhaps I should phrase my comment better.

John Litborn @ 2022-07-11T06:58 (+7)

Beautiful sketches! Images certainly don't have to be professional to be informative~

devansh @ 2022-07-13T04:04 (+6)

"It's worth noting that the scale of the funding overhang isn't absolute; there are"

Is this a typo?

Devin Lam @ 2022-07-11T01:56 (+4)

This was actually helpful, because the visual representation I had before of an 'overhang' was of a cliff overhang (which I think has more of the 'absolute', static, fixed feel to it). This visual representation of the two sides centred around a middle point made it more clearly dynamic in my mind.