Long-Term Future Fund: December 2021 grant recommendations

By abergal, Habryka, AdamGleave, evhub @ 2022-08-18T20:50 (+68)

Introduction

The Long-Term Future Fund made the following grants as part of its 2021 Q4 grant cycle (grants paid out sometime between August and December 2021):

2 of our grantees requested that we not include public reports for their grants. (You can read our policy on public reporting here). We also referred 2 grants, totalling $110,000, to private funders, and approved 3 grants, totalling $102,000, that were later withdrawn by grantees.

If you’re interested in getting funding from the Long-Term Future Fund, apply here.

(Note: The initial sections of this post were written by me, Asya Bergal.)

Other updates

Our grant volume and overall giving increased significantly in 2021 (and in 2022 – to be featured in a later payout report). In the second half of 2021, we applied for funding from larger institutional funders to make sure we could make all the grants that we thought were above the bar for longtermist spending. We received two large grants at the end of 2021:

Going forward, my guess is that donations from smaller funders will be insufficient to support our grantmaking, and we’ll mainly be relying on larger funders.

More grants and limited fund manager time mean that the write-ups in this report are shorter than our write-ups have been traditionally. I think communicating publicly about our decision-making process continues to be valuable for the overall ecosystem, so in future reports, we’re likely to continue writing short one-sentence summaries for most of our grants, and more for larger grants or grants that we think are particularly interesting.

Highlights

Here are some of the public grants from this round that I thought looked most exciting ex ante:

Grant Recipients

In addition to the grants described below, 2 grants have been excluded from this report at the request of the applicants.

Note: Some of the grants below include detailed descriptions of our grantees. Public reports are optional for our grantees, and we run all of our payout reports by grantees before publishing them. We think carefully about what information to include to maximize transparency while respecting grantees’ preferences. 

We encourage anyone who thinks they could use funding to positively influence the long-term trajectory of humanity to apply for funding.

Grants evaluated by Evan Hubinger

EA Switzerland/PIBBSS Fellowship ($305,000): A 10-12 week summer research fellowship program to facilitate interdisciplinary AI alignment research

Grants evaluated by Asya Bergal

Any views expressed below are my personal views and not the views of my employer, Open Philanthropy. (In particular, getting funding from the Long-Term Future Fund should not be read as an indication that the applicant has a greater chance of receiving funding from Open Philanthropy, and not receiving funding from the Long-Term Future Fund [or any risks and reservations noted in the public payout report] should not be read as an indication that the applicant has a smaller chance of receiving funding from Open Philanthropy.)

Grants evaluated by Adam Gleave
 

Grants evaluated by Oliver Habryka


peterhartree @ 2022-08-19T09:48 (+24)

I deeply appreciate the rare privilege of this support, and I am working hard to put it to good use.

My burn rate turned out lower than expected, so the 6-month support is actually going to cover me for 11 months—from October 2021 up to the end of August 2022.

Sometime in 2022Q4 I will share a public write up of how things went.

As of now I'm on track with the plan I sketched last year, namely:

(Phase 1) Independent study until spring / summer 2022

(Phase 2) Get into my next "big project" by end of 2022.

(Phase 1) is nearly complete—main thing left is to finish and post some EA Forum stuff.

I started on (Phase 2) in ~July 2022 and progress has been good so far. I decided to start some 1-8 week projects to test some ideas and potential long-term working relationships, improve my project management skills, and also do some hopefully useful things.

These include:

My salary for some of the above is covered by other sources, but initial exploration on all of them was covered by the LTFF grant. I think there's a strong counterfactual case that the LTFF grant has been important for making these happen.

The biggest problem I faced so far was an unusually long "low" period during winter 2021 - spring 2022. I've had these lows roughly once a year since forever, but this one was unusually bad. It have been exacerbated by a COVID-19 infection. This badly derailed my independent study (rate of progress dropped to ~20% of spring/summer 2021). This experience led me to make a big medication change, which I hope will improve things for the coming years. This medication change was sped up by the LTFF grant, because it made it easier to pay for private psychiatrist appointments.

On a personal note: I also met a girl and asked her to marry me. She said "yes".

If you'd like to know more, many of my working notes are semi-public at https://notes.pjh.is. I'm @peterhartree on Twitter.

Edit 2022-08-19: Updated the Parfit archive bullet to note that funding is secured (and to make clear that it's his physical papers and correspondence, given Pablo's comment below).

Pablo @ 2022-08-19T12:18 (+4)

I'm curious about your plans to digitize Parfit's archive. I've made~all his writings available here, but maybe you have other things in mind?

peterhartree @ 2022-08-19T13:45 (+3)

Edit 2022-08-19: The Parfit archive digitisation project is now funded (pending formalities).

Yes I'm talking about all the boxes of unpublished papers and correspondence he left behind after his death. (Plus a bunch of harddrives from the 1980s to 2017 that we've not looked at yet.)

I just started on this a couple days ago. That's to say:

  • Wednesday: emailed Parfit's former long-term partner to ask what's up with the archive.
  • Thursday: called with the person who has possession of the physical archive. Realised we should digitise it ASAP; drafted funding application and requested quotes from digitisation services.
  • Friday: final drafting funding application (now), will share to potential funders this evening.
  • Friday: final draft of funding application, secured funding.

There's already a top philosophy professor involved (the person who has the archive). They plus an assistant have nearly finished the initial sift. There is some incredible material in there.

I've not yet thought much about building a team around this, but my quick thought is that ideally I would hire a project manager and just be in an advisory role myself.

Pablo: if you or someone you know might be interested in project-managing this, or serving in an advisory role, send me an email. Likewise other readers. Thanks!

Yadav @ 2022-08-19T10:03 (+1)

Thanks for sharing this!

peterhartree @ 2022-08-19T10:03 (+1)

P.S. I'd like to acknowledge the help of Peter McIntyre here. Peter encouraged me to apply for the LTFF grant in summer 2021. I wasn't thinking about seeking financial support at the time. Minimally he sped me up on seeking funding by several months; maximally he is counterfactually responsible for quite a bit of what I've done December 2021-present.

We've also been doing ~daily virtual co-working sessions for over a year.

Evan_Gaensbauer @ 2022-08-19T23:10 (+13)

What are the reasons why this report was published over 8 months after these grant recommendations were made? Is there anything support from the rest of the EA community could ameliorate any of those bottlenecks for the LTFF, other EA Funds, fund advisors and/or the Centre for Effective Altruism?

Evan_Gaensbauer @ 2022-08-19T23:31 (+10)

I'm aware these may be sensitive questions, so I'm providing in this comment my rationale for asking these questions to demonstrate I mean to ask them in a respectful and constructive way.

First, I don't mean to imply one or more individuals have been procrastinating and not fulfilling some personal obligation to ensure reports are published in a timely manner. I recognize it as a structural problem of the Centre for Effective Altruism (CEA) and grant advisors being extremely busy with many, more important professional responsibilities. I would agree with any advisors their other professional responsibilities are a greater priority than only publishing the grant recommendations once they've already been made. 

I've interacted with dozens of people who are wary of submitting grant applications because they feel like they don't have enough information to be confident it's worth the effort to submit a grant application. That's a solvable problem but it's exacerbated by a delay in access to information that would better inform their decision.
 
There are various things to be done to solve the problem but for specifically hastening the rate at which grant recommendation reports are published, my opinion is that it would be worthwhile for some be hired and paid as an assistant grant advisors can delegate basic tasks to and save their own time. 

I could afford to donate a sum of my own money toward that end but I doubt it'd be enough. I'm confident enough in the value of this prospect, though, that I'm willing to advocate for others to donate to such an end too, or write-up an EA Forum post making the case for it. I'm confident enough in this that I might still consider it to be a good idea even if grant advisors themselves would think it unnecessary. 

calebp @ 2022-08-21T18:49 (+11)

Thanks for asking this, this didn't feel rude and I think it's a very reasonable question. I think that this report was released much later than we would have liked.

Firstly I want to clarify that EA Funds is not part of CEA, it was spun out a few years ago and I now run by me, whereas CEA is run by Max Dalton. Asya Bergal chairs the LTFF.

Asya may want to add more information below but my take is that EA Funds is bottlenecked on grant making capacity as well as good applications. Our goal is to make excellent grants and writing these reports trades off against grant making capacity. If we had more time I expect we'd put out these reports more quickly but I'm keen to try and protect the time of our part time fund managers as much as possible. I would happily hire more part time fund managers but we have found it hard to find people who are at our current bar and we have a reasonable amount of fund manager turn over (as our fund managers pursue other valuable projects).

We do have 1 assistant fund manager on EAIF and are hiring some more, but I don't expect them to speed up this process very much (as the fund managers themselves need to write up why they decided to fund the project). We will soon have a public grants database with each project we fund, but I'm less excited about just reporting our grant making as opposed to explaining our reasoning (as most of my theory of change for why these reports are useful is more around improving EA community project taste or being transparent in a high fidelity way).

I'm a bit confused about why people aren't sure whether it's worth their time to apply when the form takes less than an hour and people can apply for arbitrarily large amounts of money, the EV/hour seems very high (based on previous report acceptance rates).

Another factor which I expect to get push back on is that being transparent just ends up being very operationally costly and it's not obvious that this is the best use of our time relative to supporting grantees, approving more grants, or trying to solicit better applications. Also a large proportion of our funding comes from Open Phil, which in my view does decrease the requirement to be transparent outside of trying to encourage good community norms, and steer future EA projects.

AnonymousAccount @ 2022-08-29T22:11 (+3)

I'm a bit confused about why people aren't sure whether it's worth their time to apply when the form takes less than an hour and people can apply for arbitrarily large amounts of money, the EV/hour seems very high (based on previous report acceptance rates).


I don't know how representative it is, but I know one person that worked pretty hard on the "less than an hour" application form. Asked feedback and had calls with several people to optimize it, rewrote it from scratch at least once, probably spent >30 hours on it in total.
It was probably worth it, they got a big raise and a much more exciting job. It was understandably life changing, and I think they'll do a lot of good!

Being so life changing, I understand why applying could be a large investment, it can be large amounts of money on the line.

NunoSempere @ 2022-08-18T22:25 (+11)

Acceptance rate (excluding desk rejections): 54% 

Huh, this feels like it is pretty high / a signal that people should be applying way, way more. Or am I missing something?

Linch @ 2022-08-19T04:41 (+9)

tl;dr We're absolutely more restricted by having great grant applications than by money. So yes, if you have projects that you think are great for improving the long-term future, please apply!

(I joined LTFF in January 2022. I was not involved in any of the grants in the above payout report). 

Yeah, ~50% acceptance rate for things that aren't desk-rejects seems pretty normal for the distribution of grant applications that LTFF draws from. See this from Eli at Open Phil on their Longtermist Community Building grants:

We’ve received 94 applications overall, of which about 24 didn’t seem to be related to effective altruism or longtermism at all.

Of the remaining 70 applications, we:

  • Funded 25.
  • Rejected 28.
  • Referred 15 to the EA Infrastructure Fund or the Long-Term Future Fund, with the applicants’ permission.
  • Are still evaluating one.
  • Started evaluating one but the applicant withdrew, I believe (this application was handled by a colleague).

Which is just under 50% acceptance rate (25/53) for non-desk-rejects. 

Broadly speaking, I think the different core longtermist EA funding agencies don't have wildly different bars, especially for relatively small-scale grants that LTFF is likely to see. Acceptance rates have more to do with the distribution of applicants than the details of specific funding mechanisms.

So if you or other people have projects that you think are great (or at least decent for the longterm future, please apply!!!

Flodorner @ 2022-08-21T08:45 (+4)

Is there a description of the desk-reject policy and/or statistics on how many applications were desk rejected? 

Linch @ 2022-08-21T08:52 (+2)

(speaking for my own understanding of the situation. I don't handle desk rejects)

Usually, things that don't seem that related to or motivated by improving the long-term future at all, e.g. animal shelters, global poverty stuff, criminal justice reform, and things that are even less related. AFAIK there's no formal policy but for people reading this on the forum, I think you should think of desk rejects as mostly irrelevant to your own application chances.

NunoSempere @ 2022-08-19T06:45 (+2)

Thanks for the breakdown Linch

Nathan Ashby @ 2022-08-19T04:13 (+4)

From what I have heard from people involved in EA grant funding decisions, this is pretty typical, and yes they very much want more people to apply. 

NunoSempere @ 2022-08-19T06:45 (+2)

Feels pretty wild

aaronhamlin @ 2022-08-19T18:39 (+7)

"I am skeptical whether CES will be able to have much influence at the federal level . . ."

It's worth mentioning that CES highlighted that approval voting was able to be used for US House, US Senate, Presidential general, and Presidential Primaries with state-wide ballot initiatives. This information seems to be missing in the write-up and instead states that it doesn't influence Federal elections. 

The write-up also seems to portray local-level reform is CES' only goal. Again. we provided feedback on this issue. We also corrected the review on the cost efficiency, which is incorrect.

We hope that our feedback is more fully considered in future reviews and that this doesn't dissuade others from supporting our critical work.

AdamGleave @ 2022-08-19T22:41 (+7)

Hi Aaron, thanks for highlighting this. We inadvertently published an older version of the write-up before your feedback -- this has been corrected now. However, there are still a number of areas in the revised version which I expect you'll still take issue with, so I wanted to share a bit of perspective on this. I think it's excellent you brought up this disagreement in a comment, and would encourage people to form their own opinion.

First, for a bit of context, my grant write-ups are meant to accurately reflect my thought process, including any reservations I have about a grant. They're not meant to present all possible perspectives -- I certainly hope that donors use other data points when making their decisions, including of course CES's own fundraising materials.

My understanding is you have two main disagreements with the write-up: that I understate CES's ability to have an impact on the federal level, and that the cost effectiveness is lower than you believe to be true.

On the federal level, my updated write-up acknowledges that "CES may be able to have influence at the federal level by changing state-level voting rules on how senators and representatives are elected. This is not something they have accomplished yet, but would be a fairly natural extension of the work they have done so far." However, I remain skeptical regarding the Presidential general for the reasons stated: it'll remain effectively a two-candidate race until a majority of electoral college votes can be won by approval voting. I do not believe you ever addressed that concern.

Regarding the cost effectiveness, I believe your core concern was that we included your total budget as a cost, whereas much of your spending is allocated towards longer-term initiatives that do not directly win a present-day approval voting campaign. This was intended as a rough metric -- a more careful analysis would be needed to pinpoint the cost effectiveness. However, I'm not sure that such an analysis would necessarily give a more favorable figure. You presumably went after jurisdictions where winning approval voting reform is unusually easy; so we might well expect your cost per vote to increase in future. If you do have any internal analysis to share on that then I'm sure I and others would be interested to see it.

aaronhamlin @ 2022-08-19T23:16 (+6)

Hi Adam,

I think your response fairly addresses the concerns I initially raised, and I appreciate your effort there. Thank you for the delicate response.