Virtual how to live a good life reading groups

By rosehadshar @ 2022-08-08T11:57 (+39)

Over the past few years, I have been part of several time-bounded reading groups on how to live a good life. They’ve been quite rich spaces for me to think, connect to my purposes, and process how I want to be in the world; and I think for others in the groups too.

I’d like to make this sort of space available to more people, so I’m writing this post to:

Before I get into that, I want to explicitly say that the intention of these reading groups is open exploration of what the people in the group actually care about in their lives - rather than to rehearse standard EA arguments, or to practice some particular view of morality. I’m posting this on Forum because I expect there to be people in the EA space who would benefit from this sort of open exploration, not because I think that the good version of these groups is ‘how to live a good EA life’. I’m not interested in ‘a good EA life’: I am interested in people’s lives though, and what living a good life means to them.

What’s good about these reading groups, according to me?

The deep, ambitious purpose of these groups is to help people become wiser, by creating space for a kind of slow, deep thinking that’s hard to access in the day to day.

This may or may not make sense to you as written. It’s also difficult to measure whether it’s happening or not.

I think there are other more tangible good things that come out of the reading groups too:

How do these reading groups work?

Very concretely, groups of 4-5 people meet weekly for an hour for 4-5 weeks. Each week, someone chooses a reading of <10 pages. Everyone reads the reading beforehand, and then they discuss the reading and how it relates to living a good life for the different people in the group.

The default structure is:

A few things about the spirit of the reading groups feel important to me:

I have a few suggestions about how to pick readings:

Here are examples of readings that people chose in the groups that I was a part of:

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Sign up here by 18th August if you would like to join a virtual how to live a good life reading group.

Some uncertainties I have

The main things that stand out are:

Heartfelt thanks to all of the people in the reading groups I was part of. I learned things from all of you, even though we only came together a handful of times, even though in some cases we orient to ourselves and the universe so differently. I wish you well.


ChanaMessinger @ 2022-09-18T16:51 (+1)

Something that this seems to provide I didn't see explicitly listed was just bringing up certain questions / frames that don't come up in day to day life:

SmallCat @ 2022-08-08T19:08 (+1)

Really cool initiative. I recently finished an EA Intro Virtual Group, and I definitely resonate with the benefits of being part of such a group that you describe. I also like the structure and points about the spirit of reading groups you provided.

One point that might be challenging with organizing something like this is delegating meta responsibility to a stranger. I've tried something similar in the past and very few people volunteered, and of those, not many were able to keep up with their meta tasks.

It might be easier to start small with one group, and slowly recruit discussion organizers from previous participants over time. Does anyone else have tactical tips for how to make something like this happen with as few bumps as possible?

rosehadshar @ 2022-08-09T07:56 (+1)

Yeah, I considered moving more slowly in the way that you suggest. The reasons I'm not doing that feel a bit complicated/hard to articulate, but some of my motivations:

  • Not wanting to be patronising towards people. Making a cal event is not hard, anyone can do it
  • Feeling like 'value this thing enough that someone in the group can make a cal event for it' is a reasonable bar below which it maybe just makes sense for a group to fail
  • Having more trust/faith in groups than I think some other people have. Like, I don't expect that by default everything will work super smoothly. But I don't think it needs to work smoothly to be valuable, and I do expect by default that smart people will be able to notice that no one's shared a reading yet or that there's a scheduling conflict to resolve, even without someone being meta point person
  • Desire to experiment, to offer a space which I have found really valuable to others, not to drag things out for months and months on something which is actually pretty simple