EA Forum Prize: Winners for April 2020
By Aaron Gertler đ¸ @ 2020-06-08T09:07 (+24)
CEA is pleased to announce the winners of the April 2020 EA Forum Prize!
In first place (for a prize of $750): âWhen can I eat meat again?â by Claire Yip.
In second place (for a prize of $500): âReducing long-term risks from malevolent actors,â by David Althaus and Tobias Baumann.
In third place (for a prize of $250): âHiring process and takeaways from Fish Welfare Initiative,â by Haven King-Nobles.
The following users were each awarded a Comment Prize ($50):
- Gavin Taylor on impact purchases
- alexrjl on introducing people to EA
- AslanP on patient philanthropy
- MichaelStJules on Pascalian problems
- jackva on climate change modeling
For the previous round of prizes, see this post.
Note: Upcoming prize hiatus
After collecting feedback from the community, Iâve decided to make June the last month that CEA will definitely award Forum Prizes in their current form. This means that we will publish prize posts for May 2020 and June 2020, but wonât necessarily award prizes after that.
Overall, while some users reported finding the Prize valuable or motivating, that number wasnât quite as high as I had been hoping for. I also heard some good suggestions for ways the Prize could be restructured.
Later this month, Iâll publish a Forum post soliciting additional suggestions for altering the Prize, or for otherwise motivating people to contribute excellent content through monetary incentives.
Until we decide how to move forward, the Prize will be on hiatus. However, if we do implement a new program, weâll be sure to consider all posts made after June, even if we were on hiatus at the time â we donât want anyone to lose their chance at an award through an accident of timing.
(All that said, we may wind up sticking to the same format, or something very similar, if we donât find a different arrangement that we like more.)
What is the EA Forum Prize?
Certain posts and comments exemplify the kind of content we most want to see on the EA Forum. They are well-researched and well-organized; they care about informing readers, not just persuading them.
The Prize is an incentive to create content like this. But more importantly, we see it as an opportunity to showcase excellent work as an example and inspiration to the Forum's users.
About the winning posts and comments
Note: I write this section in first person based on my own thoughts, rather than by attempting to summarize the views of the other judges.
When can I eat meat again?
I fell in love with this piece from the title alone. The author later goes on to explain:
âI wrote this mainly because I donât want to hurt animals but I want to eat animal products. I have sought to balance out my individual yearning for these technologies.â
What a great way to frame questions about alternative proteins! I can imagine this sentiment appealing to a lot of people who read the piece â and maybe even convincing some of them to eat less meat now (âif Claire can wait patiently, I suppose I can, tooâ).
The framing aside, this is an extremely strong post on many dimensions:
- All the data comes with sources and useful context
- Claire uses confidence estimates throughout to emphasize her uncertainty, and the final section of the piece acknowledges that progress might be a lot slower than she hopes.
- Thereâs a strong focus on action, which ought to make the post more likely to be impactful than a post that just focused on describing the state of the industry. Claire includes notes specifically targeted at investors, donors, entrepreneurs, researchers, and students. If youâve ever considered working on alternative proteins, itâs hard to imagine you could read this post and not come away with something useful.
Reducing long-term risks from malevolent actors
I donât envy any author the task of describing a new cause area to a group of EA-aligned readers. And while other authors have discussed risks from totalitarian political systems, this is the first time Iâve seen a similar take on risks from the kinds of individuals who might form these systems.
Despite their intimidating position, David and Tobias did great work with this post:
- They clearly did a lot of research on both the historical and the psychological context of individual malevolence (I now think the post would have been much weaker had either of those been missing, and I wouldnât have predicted ahead of time that both elements were so important).
- I liked the way they applied the above findings to a collection of X-risk scenarios. They could have gotten away with using Hitler and Stalin as their central argument (âbad people do bad thingsâ), but they went further by showing how someone with similar traits might exacerbate a variety of potential future issues.
- As Claire did, David and Tobias make it clear how people with a variety of interests might contribute to the cause of reducing âM-riskâ (if youâll permit me to coin a term⌠which you probably shouldnât)
Hiring process and takeaways from Fish Welfare Initiative
I was a bit jealous when I first read this post, as itâs a much better version of one that I wrote. But when I put me envy aside, I instead feel deep appreciation for what FWI accomplished here.
Between the general takeaways, the detailed process description, and the templates provided at the end of the post, the authors have created a ready-made hiring process that other orgs could easily copy for themselves. This is the first (and perhaps only) post Iâd send to anyone â whether or not they ran an EA org â who was about to run their first hiring process.
My single favorite section, in case you donât have time to read the whole thing, is âNot Being a Jerk.â
The winning comments
I wonât write up an analysis of each comment. Instead, here are my thoughts on selecting comments for the prize.
The voting process
The winning posts were chosen by six people:
All posts published in the titular month qualified for voting, save for those in the following categories:
- Procedural posts from CEA and EA Funds (for example, posts announcing a new application round for one of the Funds)
- Posts linking to othersâ content with little or no additional commentary
- Posts which accrued zero or negative net karma after being posted
- Example: a post which had 2 karma upon publication and wound up with 2 karma or less
Voters recused themselves from voting on posts written by themselves or their colleagues. Otherwise, they used their own individual criteria for choosing posts, though they broadly agree with the goals outlined above.
Judges each had ten votes to distribute between the monthâs posts. They also had a number of âextraâ votes equal to [10 - the number of votes made last month]. For example, a judge who cast 7 votes last month would have 13 this month. No judge could cast more than three votes for any single post.
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The winning comments were chosen by Aaron Gertler.
Feedback
If you have thoughts on how the Prize has changed the way you read or write on the Forum, or ideas for ways we should change the current format, please write a comment or contact me.
Matt_Lerner @ 2020-06-08T23:09 (+12)
while some users reported finding the Prize valuable or motivating, that number wasn’t quite as high as I had been hoping for
It seems like the instrumental thing here is whether users who won prizes found them motivating. Most users will not write prize-winning posts, but if the users who did were at least partially motivated by the prospect of winning one, then the world with the prize is almost certainly better than the counterfactual. More generally, if users who wrote original posts were likelier to endorse the prize than users in general, that is some indication that the prize is somewhat effective. Did you have enough data to determine whether either of these situations obtain?
Aaron Gertler @ 2020-06-09T21:47 (+4)
That's a good point; I should survey past winners to get their views on this, too (though I expect people to report that they were influenced a bit more than was actually the case).
Users who were more active on the Forum were more likely to endorse the Prize, but that seems like it results partly from their being more aware of the Prize in general/reading more of the posts. Given that the posts are pinned for at least a few days each month, and shared with the biggest EA Facebook group, awareness/readership numbers were lower than I'd have hoped for.
Thanks for the feedback, and for giving me an idea on data to collect!
EdoArad @ 2020-06-08T10:55 (+6)
M-risk is amazing đ
alexrjl @ 2020-06-11T13:54 (+5)
It seems appropriate based on the content of my comment to spend the $50 buying copies of Doing Good Better or The Precipice for people in my social group who aren't EAs, so that's my current plan.
Edit: for reasons which should be fairly obvious, I don't think now is the best time to do this, so am also planning to wait a few weeks.