Loving a world you don’t trust
By Joe_Carlsmith @ 2024-06-18T19:31 (+65)
This is a crosspost, probably from LessWrong. Try viewing it there.
nullLinch @ 2024-06-18T22:25 (+14)
(very minor) as a native Chinese speaker, associating "yang" 阳 (literally, sun) with black feels really discordant/unnatural to me.
Zachary Brown @ 2024-06-19T21:41 (+11)
Some of this discussion reminds me of Mill's in his super underrated essay "Utility of Religion". He proposes there a kind of yangy humanistic religion, against a backdrop of atheism and concern about the evils of nature. Worth a read.
JP Addison @ 2024-06-19T13:01 (+8)
I can't recommend the podcast audio enough. 🥲
michel @ 2024-06-25T14:08 (+3)
Love it.
Your discussion of how ‘Green’ vibes can fall short of really looking consequences in the face reminds of a quote:
“All that blood was never once beautiful, it was always just red.” - Kait Rokowski
MaxRa @ 2024-06-24T10:08 (+2)
Thanks so much for sharing your writing, it resonated deeply with me and made me cry more than once.
SummaryBot @ 2024-06-19T14:49 (+1)
Executive summary: Loving the world despite its flaws requires balancing yang and yin, control and acceptance, in the face of an indifferent universe.
Key points:
- Yang virtues like seriousness, discipline, and strength are valuable and should not be lost in discussions of yin.
- Humanism is an existential orientation compatible with deep atheism that finds meaning and beauty in the universe despite its indifference.
- The author's preferred form of deep atheism makes room for attitudes like mother love, loyalty, innocence, tragedy and forgiveness towards the world.
- Humanity is both discovering and creating the nature of the universe ("God") through our choices and the future we build.
- Navigating the age of AGI will require balancing yin and yang, gentleness and firmness, in the face of dauntingly new challenges.
- The great humanist project is to straighten our backs, see clearly, and work to make the future a place of more light.
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