Donation insurance
By vipulnaik @ 2015-12-20T22:33 (+6)
This post is from Linchuan Zhang, who asked me to post this on his behalf. You can contact him at email.linch@gmail.com to discuss more. He'll also read the comments here. You can also collaborate with him on the original document on HackPad here.
- Almost certain to have greater total donations (at least among EAs). Donation insurers have an easy way to increase donations on expectation
- Helps with community.
- People can feel safer and are thus more likely to take risks.
- People who donate a lot wouldn't be SOL or be forced to rely on the generosity of family, banks or friends.
- Abuse : Risk of traditional abuse/moral hazard substantially lower than a traditional community insurance scheme (because you aren't actually gaining any additional money, you're just getting your donation money back).
- Counterparty Risks: It's possible that B insures A, but B also took a hit to his financial position. However, B can insure his donations too. The fact that these insurance policies are always 2-party and single-dimensional reduces this greatly.
- Naive EV utilitarians may take advantage of this to claim donation insurance for superficial problems just so they can donate more...hopefully we don't have so many dicks in the movement though.
- Obviously if you believe in a "dishaste consideration", you should not promote easier ways to donate now as opposed to later.
undefined @ 2015-12-26T20:10 (+1)
Why don't people just get typical forms of insurance, like health, disability, and unemployment?
undefined @ 2016-01-01T20:29 (+1)
Because they're more expensive?
Standard EV calculations tells you that (given risk neutrality) insurance is a loser's game, assuming that you don't have special information that the insurers do not.
undefined @ 2015-12-20T23:16 (+1)
Nice idea! Two optimizations:
1) We can also set up a community pool to insure person A in case person B turns out to run into financial issues at the same time. A committee can take charge of this community pool and pay out person A or person B depending on the situation. Then, person A or B can pay money back into the community pool.
2) For the problem of dicks in the movement, we can have mediators - person C - that person B can turn to in case s/he suspects superficial problems.
undefined @ 2015-12-21T23:16 (+1)
Thanks for the comment!
1) Please see my reply to kbog for some reasons why I think a donation pool is less feasible in the short run than 2-party donation insurance.
2) I think that's a possible solution. I also think the number of naive EV utilitarians is vastly overestimated (it's quite probable the number is under 10, and quite possible it's actually 0). Alternatively people can just trust fellow aspiring effective altruists well enough to not renege on the spirit of an agreement.