Fund Causes Open Phil Underfunds (Instead of Your Most Preferred Causes)

By Ariel Simnegar 🔸 @ 2024-11-09T23:48 (+182)

Key Takeaways

Alice's Investing Dilemma: A Thought Experiment

Alice is a conservative investor who prefers the risk-adjusted return of a portfolio of 70% stocks and 30% bonds. Along with 9 others, Alice has been allocated $1M to split between stocks and bonds however she sees fit. The combined $10M portfolio will be held for 10 years, and its profits or losses will be split equally among the 10 portfolio managers. The other 9 portfolio managers tell Alice they're planning to go with 100% stocks.

Alice's preferred asset is stocks (in the sense that if she could control the whole combined portfolio, she'd allocate the majority to stocks). However, the underallocated asset (by Alice's risk-adjusted return preference) is bonds. In this case, Alice best realizes her preferences by allocating her entire $1M to bonds! This holds even though Alice prefers stocks to bonds.

In Charity, We Should Optimize The Portfolio of Everyone's Actions

In Alice's investing dilemma, the premise that's doing the work is that Alice wants to optimize the combined portfolio instead of her particular $1M share.

In the case of effective giving, we typically focus on our giving's direct impact, but not on how it fits into the portfolio of the net effect of everyone's actions. But optimizing the portfolio of everyone's actions seems to directly follow from EA principles:

There are many legitimate reasons to not overemphasize optimizing the portfolio of everyone's actions, such as many people's concerns about personally making a difference. However, I think we should put more thought into optimizing the portfolio of everyone's actions than we currently do.

Theoretical Implications

"The Portfolio of Everyone's Actions" vs "EA's Portfolio"

In theory, this post argues that you should be optimizing the portfolio of the net effect of anything anyone will ever do (under your value system). But that's obviously intractable!

To deduce practical recommendations, one can assume that non-EA-aligned actions have negligible net effect relative to EA-aligned actions. In that case, "optimizing the portfolio of everyone's actions" reduces to optimizing the portfolio of EA's resource allocation. If you think this assumption is generally accurate, we can deduce some practical recommendations.

Practical Recommendations

Many EAs split their personal donations between cause areas including global health, animal welfare, and longtermism. If you're optimizing EA's portfolio, you probably shouldn't do this. Instead, you should identify which cause area your value system says EA most underfunds, and only donate there.

I personally believe longtermist interventions have the highest expected value, and I would allocate the plurality of EA resources to them if I could. But due to risk aversion, I think a substantial portion of our resources should go towards reducing near-term suffering, which animal welfare interventions do most cost-effectively. Since my value system says animal welfare is more underfunded than longtermism, when optimizing EA’s portfolio, it seems best for me to donate only to animal welfare. This holds even though longtermism is my preferred cause area.

For other value systems, the implications could be completely different! If Bob doesn't care about animals, but would want to split EA’s resources between 30% global health and 70% longtermism, optimizing EA’s portfolio by Bob’s value system means he should donate only to longtermist interventions.

EA's Current Resource Allocations

Knowing EA's current resource allocations would be helpful if you think this post's recommendations have merit. The most complete and up-to-date reference I know of is Tyler Maule's from November 2023:

Global healthAnimal welfareLongtermismMeta
70.4%5.5%16.2%7.9%

The consensus of EA leaders and the EA community is that global health is overfunded. If global health is excluded, Tyler's aggregation gives:

Animal welfareLongtermismMeta
18.7%54.5%26.8%

Some other potentially helpful aggregations:

  1. Open Phil grants by cause area by Hamish McDoodles (updated daily)
  2. Resource allocations by cause area by Ben Todd (as of 2019)

If anyone is interested in maintaining a more complete and up-to-date aggregation, that could be impactful. The EA community could use that as a canonical resource to better target EA's most underallocated causes.


Jeff Kaufman 🔸 @ 2024-11-10T12:29 (+23)

While I think this piece is right in some sense, seeing it written out clearly it feels like there is something uncooperative and possibly destructive about it. To take the portfolio management case:

  1. Why do the other fund managers prefer 100% stocks? Is this a thoughtful decision you are unthinkingly countering?

  2. Each fund manager gets better outcomes if they keep their allocation secret from others.

I think I'm most worried about (2): it would be bad if OP made their grants secret or individuals lied about their funding allocation in EA surveys.

Tweaking the fund manager scenario to be a bit more stark:

It feels to me that the 75-25 outcome is essentially the right one, if the two groups are equally likely to be correct. On the other hand, the adversarial 50-50 outcome is one group getting everything they want.

Note that I don't think this is an issue with other groups covering the gaps left by the recent OP shift away from some areas. It's not that OP thought that those areas should receive less funding, but that GV wanted to pick their battles. In that case, external groups that do accept the case for funding responding by supporting work in these areas seems fine and good. Which Moskovitz confirms: "I'm explicitly pro-funding by others" And: "I'd much prefer to just see someone who actually feels strongly about that take the wheel."

(This also reminds me about the perpetual debate about whether you should vote things on the Forum up/down directionally vs based on how close the vote total currently is to where you think it should be.)

Ariel Simnegar 🔸 @ 2024-11-10T21:21 (+12)

I think these unsavory implications you enumerate are just a consequence of applying game theory to donations, rather than following specifically from my post's arguments.

For example, if Bob is all-in on avoiding funging and doesn't care about norms like collaboration and transparency, his incentives are exactly as you describe: Give zero information about his value system, and make donations secretly after other funders have shown their hands.

I think you're completely right that those are awful norms, and we shouldn't go all-in on applying game theory to donations. This goes both for avoiding funging and for my post's argument about optimizing "EA's portfolio".

However, just as we can learn important lessons from the concept of funging while discouraging the bad, I still think this post is valuable and includes some nontrivial practical recommendations.

MichaelStJules @ 2024-11-19T23:09 (+8)

Note, from this post:

[The Navigation Fund] has made a non-binding commitment to sustain funding through 2026 for all of the recurring grantees that the OP Farm Animal Welfare Program will no longer be allowed to fund

I suppose this wouldn't include new orgs in wild animal welfare and invertebrate welfare, though.

Karthik Tadepalli @ 2024-11-10T23:29 (+6)

I'm curious how many people actually split their individual giving across cause areas. It seems like a strange decision, for all the reasons you outline.

Ariel Simnegar 🔸 @ 2024-11-10T23:58 (+7)

Anecdotally, most people I know who I’ve asked do that!

CB🔸 @ 2024-11-20T21:44 (+4)


For the typical EA, this would likely imply donating more to animal welfare, which is currently heavily underfunded under the typical EA's value system.

Opportunities Open Phil is exiting from, including invertebrates, digital minds, and wild animals, may be especially impactful.

I strongly agree: the comparative underfunding of these areas always felt off to me, given their very large numbers of individuals and low-hanging fruits. 
However, it feels like more and more people are recognizing the need for more funding for animal welfare, given the results of the recent debate.

mjkerrison🔸️ @ 2024-11-20T07:33 (+3)

I think this is a really compelling addition to EA portfolio theory. Two half-formed thoughts:

Ariel Simnegar 🔸 @ 2024-11-20T20:27 (+3)

Does portfolio theory apply better at the individual level than the community level?

I think the individual level applies if you have risk aversion on a personal level. For example, I care about having personally made a difference, which biases me towards certain individually less risky ideas.

is this "k-level 2" aggregate portfolio a 'better' aggregation of everyone's information than the "k-level 1" of whatever portfolio emerges from everyone individually optimising their own portfolios?

I think it's a tough situation because k=2 includes these unsavory implications Jeff and I discuss. But as I wrote, I think k=2 is just what happens when people think about everyone's donations game-theoretically. If everyone else is thinking in k=2 mode but you're thinking in k=1 mode, you're going to get funged such that your value system's expression in the portfolio could end up being much less than what is "fair". It's a bit like how the Nash equilibrium in the Prisoner's Dilemma is "defect-defect".

At some point what matters is specific projects...?

I agree with this. My post frames the discussion in terms of cause areas for simplicity and since the lessons generalize to more people, but I think your point is correct.

Benjamin M. @ 2024-11-11T13:12 (+3)

This is an understandable point to leave out, but one issue with the portfolio analogy is that, as far as I can tell, it assumes all "EA" money is basically the same. However, big donors might have advantages in certain areas, for instance if a project is hard to evaluate without extensive consultation with experts, or if a project can only be successful if it has a large and guaranteed funding stream. As such, I'm not sure it holds that, if somebody thinks Open Phil is underinvesting in longtermism compared to the ideal allocation, then they should give to longtermist charities- the opportunities available to Open Phil might be significantly stronger than the ones available to donors, especially ones who don't have a technical background in the area.

Jeff Kaufman 🔸 @ 2024-11-11T13:56 (+4)

if somebody thinks Open Phil is underinvesting in longtermism compared to the ideal allocation, then they should give to longtermist charities- the opportunities available to Open Phil might be significantly stronger than the ones available to donors

"Topping up" OP grants does reasonably well in this scenario, no?

Jesper @ 2024-11-20T18:16 (+1)

I agree with the overall conclusion of this post but not completely with the reasoning. In particular, there is an important difference between allocating investments and allocating charitable donations in that for investments it makes sense to be (at least somewhat) risk averse, while for donations a simple strategy maximizing expected benefits makes perfect sense.

Even a risk-neutral approach to charitable donations will have to spread its investments however, because there is only so much money that the most effective charity can absorb before reaching its funding gap, which makes the next best charity the new most effective one.

For a big organization such as OP, this can become a real problem for a cause area where there are many charities with high effectiveness but (relatively) low funding gaps. This might be part of the explanation why OP pays more to global health, where there are very large organizations that can effectively absorb a lot of funding, over animal welfare.

For small individual donors, this means that there are likely opportunities to make very effective donations to organizations that might be too new or too small to be picked up by the big donors. You might even help them grow to the size where they can effectively absorb much larger donations.

So to reiterate, I think it makes sense to prefer donating to smaller charities and cause areas as an individual donor, but the reason is that they might be overlooked by the big donors, not to "balance out" some imaginary overall EA portfolio.

Ariel Simnegar 🔸 @ 2024-11-20T20:43 (+3)

I don't think most people take as a given that maximizing expected value makes perfect sense for donations. In the theoretical limit, many people balk at conclusions like accepting a gamble with a 51% chance of doubling the universe's value and a 49% chance of destroying it. (Especially so at the implication of continuing to accept that gamble until the universe is almost surely destroyed.) In practice, people have all sorts of risk aversion, including difference-making risk aversion, avoiding worst case scenarios, and reducing ambiguity.

I argue here against the view that animal welfare's diminishing marginal returns would be sufficient for global health to win out against it at OP levels of funding, even if one is risk neutral.

So long as small orgs apply to large grantmakers like OP, so long as one is locally confident that OP is trying to maximize expected value, I'd actually expect that OP's full-time staff would generally be much better positioned to make these kinds of judgments than you or I. Under your value system, I'd echo Jeff's suggestion that you should "top up" OP's grants.

Jesper 🔸 @ 2024-11-20T22:11 (+3)

My main reason for trying to be mostly risk-neutral in my donations is that my donations are very small relative to the total size of the problem, while this is not the case for my personal investments. I would donate differently (more risk-averse) if I had control over a significant part of all charitable donations in a given area. In particular, I do not endorse double-or-nothing gambling on the fate of the universe.

You make a good point that OP is more likely to make judgements regarding small donation opportunities, so I'll have to revise my position that small donors should specifically seek out smaller organizations to donate to. But the same argument for "topping up" OP donations could equally be made to support simply donating to an EA fund (which I expect will also take into account how their donations funge with OP).