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            <title>How might robotics capabilities research affect AGI timelines? by themasterchief166</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/zjxD3BzLunMrdCuyv/how-might-robotics-capabilities-research-affect-agi</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;For con&#xAD;text, I am con&#xAD;sid&#xAD;er&#xAD;ing pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing a ca&#xAD;reer in the&#xAD;o&#xAD;ret&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal robotics, par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly in con&#xAD;tinual learn&#xAD;ing and the de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment of robots that can learn from and adapt to /​ nav&#xAD;i&#xAD;gate their en&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ron&#xAD;ments in a hu&#xAD;man-like man&#xAD;ner. One con&#xAD;cern I have, how&#xAD;ever, is that such re&#xAD;search might ad&#xAD;vance AGI timelines. Speci&#xAD;fi&#xAD;cally, it seems pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble that gen&#xAD;eral ad&#xAD;vances de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oped to im&#xAD;prove con&#xAD;tinual learn&#xAD;ing in robots could trans&#xAD;fer to gen&#xAD;eral AGI sys&#xAD;tems (even if the AGI sys&#xAD;tems are non-em&#xAD;bod&#xAD;ied, since ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities such as con&#xAD;tinual adap&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tion and long-term ob&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tive pur&#xAD;suit may gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ize be&#xAD;yond phys&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal tasks).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is this a valid con&#xAD;cern, and is it a com&#xAD;mon view within the AI safety com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity? I.e. would main&#xAD;stream AI safety re&#xAD;searchers view ei&#xAD;ther of these di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tions as mean&#xAD;ingfully con&#xAD;tribut&#xAD;ing to AGI ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities? Or are there strong rea&#xAD;sons to be&#xAD;lieve that work on con&#xAD;tinual learn&#xAD;ing in robotics would not sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;ate AGI timelines? Would ap&#xAD;pre&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ate hon&#xAD;est per&#xAD;spec&#xAD;tives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;TL;DR:&lt;/strong&gt; Is it very likely that robotics ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities re&#xAD;search mean&#xAD;ingfully ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;ates AGI timelines? If so, why? If any&#xAD;body knows of any rele&#xAD;vant is&#xAD;cus&#xAD;sions or read&#xAD;ings, in par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar, it would be very much ap&#xAD;pre&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(For refer&#xAD;ence, I have read quite a bit of the AI safety liter&#xAD;a&#xAD;ture, but don’t find al&#xAD;ign&#xAD;ment re&#xAD;search par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly en&#xAD;joy&#xAD;able. Hence, my [per&#xAD;haps fu&#xAD;tile] hope that robotics does not mean&#xAD;ingfully ad&#xAD;vance AGI. If peo&#xAD;ple think such work sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;ates AGI ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities, though, I’m happy to steer clear…)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>themasterchief166</author>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Work at Manifund or Mox by Carol N</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/ots759FEHk8vHyunG/work-at-manifund-or-mox</link>
            <description>&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;In &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-impact-markets&quot;&gt;What hap&#xAD;pened to im&#xAD;pact mar&#xAD;kets?&lt;/a&gt; Austin laid out a brief his&#xAD;tory of Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund and ex&#xAD;pla&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion of who and what we are. The per&#xAD;haps grandiose goal of Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund is to solve the prob&#xAD;lem of philan&#xAD;thropic cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion. In prac&#xAD;tice, over a few years, we’ve … done a lit&#xAD;tle bit of that, with some in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing de&#xAD;tours?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;We run &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://manifund.org&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, a plat&#xAD;form for fund&#xAD;ing char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ble en&#xAD;deav&#xAD;ors. Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;runs an&#xAD;nual &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.org/about/regranting&quot;&gt;re&#xAD;grant&#xAD;ing&lt;/a&gt; programs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;offers fis&#xAD;cal spon&#xAD;sor&#xAD;ship for grantees&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;han&#xAD;dles lo&#xAD;gis&#xAD;tics for pro&#xAD;grams like &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.org/causes/acx-grants-2024&quot;&gt;ACX Grants&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.org/projects/falcon-fund&quot;&gt;Fal&#xAD;con Fund&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Right now we’re run&#xAD;ning &lt;a href=&quot;https://surplus.dev/&quot;&gt;Sur&#xAD;plus&lt;/a&gt;, a startup in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;bated &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifest.is/&quot;&gt;Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fest&lt;/a&gt;, now a sep&#xAD;a&#xAD;rate or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;And Mox—see be&#xAD;low!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.substack.com/&quot;&gt;our Sub&#xAD;stack&lt;/a&gt; to get a sense of what we’re think&#xAD;ing about and what our aims are: right now it’s &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.substack.com/p/announcing-trace&quot;&gt;fund&#xAD;ing trans&#xAD;parency&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.substack.com/p/impact-markets-made-concrete&quot;&gt;im&#xAD;pact mar&#xAD;kets&lt;/a&gt;, and more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is Mox?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://moxsf.com/&quot;&gt;Mox&lt;/a&gt; is an in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tor and com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity space in San Fran&#xAD;cisco. Our vi&#xAD;sion is to be a space in SF for AI safety, broad-tent EA, and other peo&#xAD;ple do&#xAD;ing cool stuff—some&#xAD;where peo&#xAD;ple can meet, make con&#xAD;nec&#xAD;tions, work to&#xAD;gether, learn new things, and feel a sense of com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity. We:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;offer cowork&#xAD;ing in San Fran&#xAD;cisco, for in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als and startup teams&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;run events, from weekly clubs and mem&#xAD;bers’ din&#xAD;ners to &lt;a href=&quot;https://moxsf.com/summerseason&quot;&gt;talks&lt;/a&gt;, movie nights, and mixers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;host fel&#xAD;low&#xAD;ships like &lt;a href=&quot;https://surplus.dev/&quot;&gt;Sur&#xAD;plus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.framefellowship.com/&quot;&gt;Frame&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.trading.camp/&quot;&gt;Ar&#xAD;bor&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://moxsf.notion.site/global-expert-fellowship?pvs=74&quot;&gt;Global Ex&#xAD;perts Fellowship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mox was in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;bated by Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund and still runs out of the same en&#xAD;tity, but is now a sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially sep&#xAD;a&#xAD;rate team and op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why work at Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund or Mox?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;The biggest rea&#xAD;son to work here is ex&#xAD;cite&#xAD;ment about what we’re do&#xAD;ing! We want to hire peo&#xAD;ple who are ea&#xAD;ger to make an im&#xAD;pact on the world, whether by cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing good com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties or get&#xAD;ting philan&#xAD;thropic money to the right places.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We have a small team that offers lots of in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dence, flex&#xAD;i&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity, and room for growth. Right now the Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund team is 2ish FTE and the Mox team is 4ish, mean&#xAD;ing that each new hire can have a lot of im&#xAD;pact. And it’s a great way to quickly get a van&#xAD;tage point on the ecosys&#xAD;tem and come into con&#xAD;tact with in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple and ideas, whether you’re work&#xAD;ing with donors and founders at Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund or mem&#xAD;bers at Mox.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who are we look&#xAD;ing for?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;So what roles are we hiring for? We’re fairly flex&#xAD;ible, both be&#xAD;cause we’re open to grow&#xAD;ing in differ&#xAD;ent di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tions de&#xAD;pend&#xAD;ing on who we hire, and be&#xAD;cause the cur&#xAD;rent team is pretty flex&#xAD;ible. We don’t have spe&#xAD;cific roles we need to hire for on any par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar timeline—we’re more look&#xAD;ing to hire ex&#xAD;cep&#xAD;tional tal&#xAD;ent and peo&#xAD;ple we’re par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly ex&#xAD;cited about work&#xAD;ing with.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But to give an idea, here are some types of peo&#xAD;ple we’d be in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mox event coordinator&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who loves cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing great events. Job tasks could in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;brain&#xAD;storm&#xAD;ing and plan&#xAD;ning events&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;co&#xAD;or&#xAD;di&#xAD;nat&#xAD;ing with out&#xAD;side peo&#xAD;ple host&#xAD;ing events at Mox&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;be&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble for event logistics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mox office manager&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who is or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;nized and cares about mak&#xAD;ing spaces amaz&#xAD;ing to be in and work at. Job tasks could in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;co&#xAD;or&#xAD;di&#xAD;nat&#xAD;ing with ven&#xAD;dors and con&#xAD;trac&#xAD;tors: clean&#xAD;ing, in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;net, maintenance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;buy&#xAD;ing and ar&#xAD;rang&#xAD;ing fur&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ture and equipment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;han&#xAD;dling lo&#xAD;gis&#xAD;tics for food, office sup&#xAD;plies, print&#xAD;ing, and mail&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;re&#xAD;spond&#xAD;ing to feed&#xAD;back from users&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mox director&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who shares the &lt;a href=&quot;https://app.notion.com/p/Mox-Strategy-Memo-Aug-2026-3bd54492ea7a806ca226d6e572b1b24e?pvs=21&quot;&gt;vi&#xAD;sion of Mox&lt;/a&gt; and wants to be re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble for driv&#xAD;ing it for&#xAD;ward and man&#xAD;ag&#xAD;ing the Mox team.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund ops/​fi&#xAD;nance person&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who is de&#xAD;tail-ori&#xAD;ented and likes spread&#xAD;sheets and set&#xAD;ting up sys&#xAD;tems—could be some&#xAD;one with ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience in this stuff or some&#xAD;one who wants to learn. Job tasks could in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;be&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble for grant pay&#xAD;outs and pro&#xAD;cess&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing donations&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;re&#xAD;spond&#xAD;ing to cus&#xAD;tomer sup&#xAD;port inquiries&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;re&#xAD;view&#xAD;ing projects&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;han&#xAD;dling taxes and other re&#xAD;quired filings&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;book&#xAD;keep&#xAD;ing, work&#xAD;ing with auditors&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund soft&#xAD;ware engineer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who’s ex&#xAD;cited to make our web&#xAD;sites great. Job tasks could in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://manifund.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://manifund.org&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; site&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;work&#xAD;ing on side pro&#xAD;jects like &lt;a href=&quot;https://trace.manifund.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://trace.manifund.org&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;trace.man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://fundingbench.org/&quot;&gt;Fund&#xAD;ingBench&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.impact-exchange.org/&quot;&gt;Im&#xAD;pact Exchange&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;mak&#xAD;ing sites fast, beau&#xAD;tiful, and user-friendly&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;au&#xAD;tomat&#xAD;ing more steps in the grant process&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund growth/​outreach&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who’s happy talk&#xAD;ing to lots of peo&#xAD;ple and ask&#xAD;ing them for things. Job tasks could in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;fundrais&#xAD;ing from donors&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;man&#xAD;ag&#xAD;ing new grant programs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;re&#xAD;cruit&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;jects to post on Manifund&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;figur&#xAD;ing out how to pro&#xAD;mote Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund—Sub&#xAD;stack, Twit&#xAD;ter, or what&#xAD;ever you come up with&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fill in your own&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who’s ex&#xAD;cited about some or all of the above, or some&#xAD;thing else we haven’t listed! If any&#xAD;thing, be&#xAD;ing will&#xAD;ing to take on many differ&#xAD;ent types of tasks is a plus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Logistics&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;For Mox, roles are based in SF; for Man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund, em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees can be re&#xAD;mote or work in our SF office. We pay com&#xAD;pet&#xAD;i&#xAD;tively, with pay vary&#xAD;ing de&#xAD;pend&#xAD;ing on the role, and pre&#xAD;fer to make hiring de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sions fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing a paid work trial—the length of the trial can be de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent on your availa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity. We’re open to visa spon&#xAD;sor&#xAD;ship and re&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion sup&#xAD;port.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To ap&#xAD;ply, fill out our &lt;a href=&quot;https://app.notion.com/p/f72e365227374a4bb2bd93aabe78df41?pvs=21&quot;&gt;ex&#xAD;pres&#xAD;sion of in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&lt;/a&gt; or email &lt;a href=&quot;http://mailto:austin@manifund.org&quot;&gt;austin@&lt;a href=&quot;http://manifund.org&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;! Note that we don’t ex&#xAD;pect to be able to re&#xAD;ply to ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;one who reaches out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Carol N</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 21:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>The Odyssean Process on AI: Progress &amp; the Future by Odyssean Institute</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/nheXFebEDi2WdgLWE/the-odyssean-process-on-ai-progress-and-the-future</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;It is a ma&#xAD;jor priv&#xAD;ilege to be able to an&#xAD;nounce our progress on the first iter&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion of the &lt;a href=&quot;/posts/aHWZrQxfcTc5AKaGc/the-odyssean-process&quot;&gt;the Odyssean Process&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In 2023, the Odyssean In&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tute de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oped the Pro&#xAD;cess as an in&#xAD;te&#xAD;grated, all-haz&#xAD;ards ready pipeline for de&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ing col&#xAD;lec&#xAD;tive in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence, epistemic ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;tise, and ro&#xAD;bust simu&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions of pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble fu&#xAD;tures, against policy failures or ne&#xAD;glect on ex&#xAD;is&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial and catas&#xAD;trophic risks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The aim was to en&#xAD;sure that epistemic in&#xAD;puts could be rigor&#xAD;ously col&#xAD;lated and filtered, ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;tise de&#xAD;bi&#xAD;ased, and their in&#xAD;sights iter&#xAD;a&#xAD;tively de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oped so ir&#xAD;re&#xAD;ducible un&#xAD;cer&#xAD;tain&#xAD;ties are mapped as best as pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble. Th&#xAD;ese out&#xAD;puts, use&#xAD;ful already as mod&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar find&#xAD;ings for an&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pa&#xAD;tory poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ing , are then so&#xAD;cial&#xAD;ised with the pub&#xAD;lic. This is so those with skin in the game can de&#xAD;liber&#xAD;ate on these find&#xAD;ings, en&#xAD;sur&#xAD;ing the dis&#xAD;tor&#xAD;tionary in&#xAD;fluence of vested in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ests and po&#xAD;lari&#xAD;sa&#xAD;tion can be con&#xAD;strained on ur&#xAD;gent and emerg&#xAD;ing risks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We launched this first Pro&#xAD;cess with fore&#xAD;sight ex&#xAD;er&#xAD;cises by ex&#xAD;perts on AI risk in Fe&#xAD;bru&#xAD;ary, and now reach&#xAD;ing the main phase of a Na&#xAD;tional Ci&#xAD;ti&#xAD;zens’ Assem&#xAD;bly on AI in the United King&#xAD;dom, con&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing in Novem&#xAD;ber 2026.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The linked blog con&#xAD;tains more thor&#xAD;ough up&#xAD;dates on progress. We are also &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.probablygood.org/jobs/research-fellowship-odyssean-institute&quot;&gt;hiring for Fel&#xAD;lows&lt;/a&gt; to sup&#xAD;port the causal loop mod&#xAD;el&#xAD;ling of in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;con&#xAD;nected risks, to de&#xAD;velop an au&#xAD;to&#xAD;mated, re&#xAD;pro&#xAD;ducible re&#xAD;source for other AI safety re&#xAD;searchers and policy mak&#xAD;ers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any sup&#xAD;port is wel&#xAD;come, with fur&#xAD;ther fundrais&#xAD;ing and so&#xAD;cial&#xAD;is&#xAD;ing of find&#xAD;ings most ap&#xAD;pre&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ated, as the doc&#xAD;u&#xAD;men&#xAD;tary we are pro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing to record this and dis&#xAD;sem&#xAD;i&#xAD;nate the method&#xAD;ol&#xAD;ogy be&#xAD;yond spe&#xAD;cial&#xAD;ist cir&#xAD;cles as a re&#xAD;peat&#xAD;able recipe is be&#xAD;ing de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oped for early 2027. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks for your time and at&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tion, and for all those read&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est or already aware of these efforts. Here’s to col&#xAD;lec&#xAD;tive in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence and turn&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;no&#xAD;va&#xAD;tions to bear on com&#xAD;plex, sys&#xAD;temic, and emerg&#xAD;ing risks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Odyssean Institute</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>We know who lives inside wild fish. We don’t know what happens in there by Pablo Sar</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/qXW3QgcpTkhcu63Fc/we-know-who-lives-inside-wild-fish-we-don-t-know-what</link>
            <description>&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/qXW3QgcpTkhcu63Fc/tilfhocqjwjzy40s99bd&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;Grouper (&lt;i&gt;Epinephelus&lt;/i&gt; sp.). Groupers can host a wide range of par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites, in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing anisak&#xAD;ids and myx&#xAD;o&#xAD;zoans. Photo: LDLP.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This post was origi&#xAD;nally pub&#xAD;lished on &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pablosarethics.substack.com/p/we-know-who-lives-inside-wild-fish&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;my Sub&#xAD;stack&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;. I’m shar&#xAD;ing it here be&#xAD;cause par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site–host in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tions in wild fish may have sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tial and largely ne&#xAD;glected welfare im&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tions, while we still know re&#xAD;mark&#xAD;ably lit&#xAD;tle about the ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;riences of the an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals in&#xAD;volved. The post is in&#xAD;tended mainly to high&#xAD;light this em&#xAD;piri&#xAD;cal gap and some po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tially tractable di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tions for fur&#xAD;ther re&#xAD;search.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Introduction&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cataracts cover much of both eyes of a fish who is still feed&#xAD;ing and mov&#xAD;ing nor&#xAD;mally. A bird ap&#xAD;proaches from above, un&#xAD;seen. The at&#xAD;tack suc&#xAD;ceeds. If any&#xAD;one is keep&#xAD;ing count, the fish is recorded as a death from pre&#xAD;da&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not a hy&#xAD;po&#xAD;thet&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal case. In fish from Kal&#xAD;mar Sound, the trema&#xAD;tode &lt;i&gt;Di&#xAD;plos&#xAD;to&#xAD;mum&lt;/i&gt;, whose lar&#xAD;vae set&#xAD;tle in the lens of the eye, was &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1007/s00436-017-5439-5&quot;&gt;found&lt;/a&gt; in 86 of the 88 fish ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ined, while all 88 had de&#xAD;tectable eye-fluke-in&#xAD;duced cataracts. Cataracts cov&#xAD;ered more than half of both eyes in 35% of the sam&#xAD;ple. Among those tested against a simu&#xAD;lated at&#xAD;tack from above, none with more than half of both eyes cov&#xAD;ered re&#xAD;sponded by flee&#xAD;ing. This does not prove that they were caught more of&#xAD;ten in the wild, but the bur&#xAD;den of proof seems to lie on the other side: any&#xAD;one who thinks par&#xAD;tial blind&#xAD;ness of this mag&#xAD;ni&#xAD;tude does not in&#xAD;crease vuln&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity to pre&#xAD;da&#xAD;tion has to ex&#xAD;plain why it would not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What mat&#xAD;ters here, in any case, is not the death it&#xAD;self. Cataracts have been de&#xAD;scribed for decades and ap&#xAD;pear in prevalence stud&#xAD;ies. What dis&#xAD;ap&#xAD;pears from the record is the in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;val: the time that fish spent un&#xAD;able to see prop&#xAD;erly does not show up as harm in any statis&#xAD;tic, and the death, when it comes, is at&#xAD;tributed to a preda&#xAD;tor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;val is what this post is about. Iden&#xAD;ti&#xAD;fy&#xAD;ing a par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site is one thing. Know&#xAD;ing what these re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships do to the in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als in&#xAD;volved, and for how long, is an&#xAD;other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The gap is not ran&#xAD;dom ei&#xAD;ther. Much of the available liter&#xAD;a&#xAD;ture ad&#xAD;dresses ques&#xAD;tions about aqua&#xAD;cul&#xAD;ture, fish&#xAD;eries man&#xAD;age&#xAD;ment, or food safety, and an&#xAD;swer&#xAD;ing those ques&#xAD;tions has pro&#xAD;duced an enor&#xAD;mous amount of use&#xAD;ful knowl&#xAD;edge. We can iden&#xAD;tify species with molec&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar pre&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion and de&#xAD;scribe le&#xAD;sions at the his&#xAD;tolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal level. But these are ques&#xAD;tions about what causes mor&#xAD;tal&#xAD;ity among fish in aqua&#xAD;cul&#xAD;ture, what re&#xAD;duces catches, or what can make peo&#xAD;ple sick when they eat fish. The du&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tion, in&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sity, and course of these re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships are stud&#xAD;ied far less, not be&#xAD;cause no&#xAD;body finds them in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing, but be&#xAD;cause they are rarely what the study was de&#xAD;signed to find out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Weishan: even the cen&#xAD;sus fails&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;The pre&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ous case might sug&#xAD;gest an overly re&#xAD;as&#xAD;sur&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sion: per&#xAD;haps the only prob&#xAD;lem is that we record deaths badly. That is not the case. Be&#xAD;fore we can even ask what hap&#xAD;pens in one of these re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships, we first need to know who is ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally there. And we strug&#xAD;gle with that too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In 2026, re&#xAD;searchers looked for myx&#xAD;o&#xAD;zoans, micro&#xAD;scopic par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sitic an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals re&#xAD;lated to jel&#xAD;lyfish and corals, in 942 sam&#xAD;ples from 108 fish in Lake Weishan, China. Us&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tional meth&#xAD;ods, they found three species and signs of their pres&#xAD;ence in about one in five fish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When the same sam&#xAD;ples were analysed us&#xAD;ing ge&#xAD;netic &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijpara.2026.104905&quot;&gt;se&#xAD;quenc&#xAD;ing&lt;/a&gt;, the re&#xAD;sults re&#xAD;vealed at least 102 differ&#xAD;ent types, with sig&#xAD;nals in ev&#xAD;ery fish ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ined.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find&#xAD;ing ge&#xAD;netic ma&#xAD;te&#xAD;rial is not the same thing as find&#xAD;ing an es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lished par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site. Some of those sig&#xAD;nals might cor&#xAD;re&#xAD;spond to or&#xAD;ganisms that were pre&#xAD;sent with&#xAD;out caus&#xAD;ing ap&#xAD;pre&#xAD;cia&#xAD;ble effects, traces swal&#xAD;lowed by the fish with the wa&#xAD;ter, or forms that never man&#xAD;aged to es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lish them&#xAD;selves. We do not know how many fall into each cat&#xAD;e&#xAD;gory, and dis&#xAD;t&#xAD;in&#xAD;guish&#xAD;ing be&#xAD;tween them is part of the prob&#xAD;lem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Even so, the re&#xAD;sult changes the start&#xAD;ing point. The list we had been work&#xAD;ing with was not sim&#xAD;ply a slightly shorter ver&#xAD;sion of the real list. It was a list of some&#xAD;thing else: what a micro&#xAD;scope hap&#xAD;pens to re&#xAD;veal. A more than thir&#xAD;tyfold differ&#xAD;ence in the num&#xAD;ber of types de&#xAD;tected can ap&#xAD;pear even in the part of the prob&#xAD;lem we should be best at: figur&#xAD;ing out who is there. That makes it hard to be op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mistic about the more difficult ques&#xAD;tion of what that pres&#xAD;ence means.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/qXW3QgcpTkhcu63Fc/e95z1f5ipq8ozbydqgoi&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;Myx&#xAD;o&#xAD;zoan di&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity in wild fish from Lake Weishan. Data from &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijpara.2026.104905&quot;&gt;Ding et al. (2026)&lt;/a&gt;. Con&#xAD;cept and di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion by the au&#xAD;thor; illus&#xAD;tra&#xAD;tion gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ated with Claude.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Ligula: pres&#xAD;ence alone is not enough&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ligula in&#xAD;testi&#xAD;nalis&lt;/i&gt; is a tape&#xAD;worm that lives in&#xAD;side fish and can reach a size that is hard to pic&#xAD;ture. In two lakes in Kenya, &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1017/S003118200999059X&quot;&gt;worms&lt;/a&gt; weighed as much as 20% of the fish’s body weight. In a 70-kilo&#xAD;gram hu&#xAD;man, the same pro&#xAD;por&#xAD;tion would mean car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing a 14-kilo&#xAD;gram worm. But the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site does more than take up space. In some fish, the worm can &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/parasitology/article/abs/ligula-intestinalis-cestoda-pseudophyllidea-an-ideal-fishmetazoan-parasite-model/8F941F89A825CDADE1C68D07CC58B375&quot;&gt;dis&#xAD;rupt&lt;/a&gt; nor&#xAD;mal re&#xAD;pro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The effects also change as the worm de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;ops. The par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site can&#xAD;not re&#xAD;pro&#xAD;duce in&#xAD;side a fish and only be&#xAD;comes an adult af&#xAD;ter reach&#xAD;ing a fish-eat&#xAD;ing bird (which means the fish has to be eaten first). In Lake Nyasa/​Malawi, re&#xAD;searchers found that fish car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing worms that had de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oped enough to sur&#xAD;vive in&#xAD;side a bird were eas&#xAD;ier to catch and spent more time near the sur&#xAD;face, where birds hunt. Be&#xAD;fore reach&#xAD;ing that stage, fish car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site be&#xAD;haved much more like fish with&#xAD;out &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt;. This may be a form of ma&#xAD;nipu&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion by the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So pic&#xAD;ture two fish counted in the same statis&#xAD;tic. One car&#xAD;ries a worm at an early stage and be&#xAD;haves much like a fish with&#xAD;out &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt;. The other car&#xAD;ries a worm at a later stage, per&#xAD;haps already enor&#xAD;mous, and spends more time near the sur&#xAD;face. Both sim&#xAD;ply count as car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt;. And nei&#xAD;ther en&#xAD;try tells us how long ei&#xAD;ther fish has been liv&#xAD;ing in that state.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Anisak&#xAD;ids: par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites we study for an&#xAD;other reason&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anisakis&lt;/i&gt; lar&#xAD;vae en&#xAD;ter a fish when the fish eats an&#xAD;other an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mal car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing them. Once in&#xAD;side the gut, they may move el&#xAD;se&#xAD;where in the body. In &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022149X00022902&quot;&gt;ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;ments&lt;/a&gt;, lar&#xAD;vae taken from one fish and fed to an&#xAD;other passed through the wall of the stom&#xAD;ach or in&#xAD;tes&#xAD;tine. Most ended up in the body cav&#xAD;ity, while a few reached the mus&#xAD;cle. The fish may then sur&#xAD;round a larva with a cap&#xAD;sule. But the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site will not be&#xAD;come an adult there. That can hap&#xAD;pen only if the fish is eaten by a whale or dolphin. Un&#xAD;til then, the lar&#xAD;vae can re&#xAD;main al&#xAD;ive for &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016578369390088O&quot;&gt;years&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not some&#xAD;thing that hap&#xAD;pens to just a hand&#xAD;ful of fish. On the cen&#xAD;tral coast of Chile, 180 fish from three species were &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1007/s00436-022-07459-x&quot;&gt;ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ined&lt;/a&gt;. In two of the three species, ev&#xAD;ery in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;ual car&#xAD;ried anisakid lar&#xAD;vae. In the third, roughly one in three did. The fish came from ar&#xAD;ti&#xAD;sanal catches pur&#xAD;chased at lo&#xAD;cal mar&#xAD;kets, so this is not a perfect snap&#xAD;shot of what is hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing in the sea, but the num&#xAD;bers are hard to ig&#xAD;nore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is a moun&#xAD;tain of re&#xAD;search on anisak&#xAD;ids. Much of that work asks what hap&#xAD;pens when peo&#xAD;ple eat fish car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing them, rather than what car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing the lar&#xAD;vae does to the fish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What is it like to spend years with anisakid lar&#xAD;vae en&#xAD;cap&#xAD;su&#xAD;lated in mus&#xAD;cle and body cav&#xAD;ity? Two very differ&#xAD;ent an&#xAD;swers are pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble, and nei&#xAD;ther can cur&#xAD;rently be ruled out. The cap&#xAD;sule might work like an old scar, some&#xAD;thing the body dealt with once and then largely for&#xAD;got about. Or it might be&#xAD;have more like a splin&#xAD;ter that is never quite fully sealed off, caus&#xAD;ing a small but per&#xAD;sis&#xAD;tent ir&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tion. There is one asym&#xAD;me&#xAD;try worth not&#xAD;ing: larger lar&#xAD;vae are found in older fish, which sug&#xAD;gests that the lar&#xAD;vae re&#xAD;main al&#xAD;ive and grow in&#xAD;side their cap&#xAD;sules. Splin&#xAD;ters do not grow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The differ&#xAD;ence is the differ&#xAD;ence be&#xAD;tween a par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site that barely mat&#xAD;ters and one that makes life worse for al&#xAD;most ev&#xAD;ery fish in some pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions. It is un&#xAD;usual to find such a ba&#xAD;sic ques&#xAD;tion still open in a field this large.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/qXW3QgcpTkhcu63Fc/axpi5kchedq9u1vtp0je&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;The &lt;i&gt;Anisakis&lt;/i&gt; life cy&#xAD;cle and the open ques&#xAD;tion of long-term en&#xAD;cap&#xAD;su&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion in fish. Con&#xAD;cept and di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion by the au&#xAD;thor; illus&#xAD;tra&#xAD;tion gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ated with Claude.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;h3&gt;What if the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites suffer too?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;So far, I have writ&#xAD;ten as though the prob&#xAD;lem were sim&#xAD;ply what hap&#xAD;pens to the fish. But if the ques&#xAD;tion is how much suffer&#xAD;ing ex&#xAD;ists in these re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships, there is an&#xAD;other part of the story: the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites them&#xAD;selves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We do not know whether anisak&#xAD;ids, &lt;i&gt;Di&#xAD;plos&#xAD;to&#xAD;mum&lt;/i&gt;, or &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt; are sen&#xAD;tient. The first are ne&#xAD;ma&#xAD;todes; the other two are flat&#xAD;worms. All have ner&#xAD;vous sys&#xAD;tems. In free-liv&#xAD;ing ne&#xAD;ma&#xAD;todes such as &lt;i&gt;C. el&#xAD;e&#xAD;gans&lt;/i&gt;, re&#xAD;searchers have found re&#xAD;sponses to harm&#xAD;ful stim&#xAD;uli, as&#xAD;so&#xAD;ci&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive learn&#xAD;ing, and changes in be&#xAD;havi&#xAD;our based on pre&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ous ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience. There are com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;rable find&#xAD;ings in free-liv&#xAD;ing flat&#xAD;worms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those com&#xAD;par&#xAD;i&#xAD;sons come with an im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant caveat. Some par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sitic worms have &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4413821/&quot;&gt;re&#xAD;duced&lt;/a&gt; sen&#xAD;sory struc&#xAD;tures com&#xAD;pared with free-liv&#xAD;ing forms. This is far from uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sal, but it gives us some rea&#xAD;son for cau&#xAD;tion. And the cases here are not equiv&#xAD;a&#xAD;lent. An anisakid larva ac&#xAD;tively mi&#xAD;grates through tis&#xAD;sues and can re&#xAD;main ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;ble of pen&#xAD;e&#xAD;trat&#xAD;ing a gut wall af&#xAD;ter long pe&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ods in&#xAD;side a fish. For &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Di&#xAD;plos&#xAD;to&#xAD;mum&lt;/i&gt;, we have much less ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence of the kinds of be&#xAD;havi&#xAD;our that would help an&#xAD;swer the ques&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still, it is worth be&#xAD;ing clear about why we do not know more. It is not that the rele&#xAD;vant ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;ments were done and pro&#xAD;duced nega&#xAD;tive re&#xAD;sults. They have barely been done at all. The in&#xAD;di&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tors used to dis&#xAD;cuss whether crabs or oc&#xAD;to&#xAD;puses can suffer, such as learn&#xAD;ing to avoid a place where they were harmed, giv&#xAD;ing up some&#xAD;thing valuable to es&#xAD;cape an un&#xAD;pleas&#xAD;ant stim&#xAD;u&#xAD;lus, or rub&#xAD;bing or pro&#xAD;tect&#xAD;ing an in&#xAD;jured area, have hardly been in&#xAD;ves&#xAD;ti&#xAD;gated in these worms. The ab&#xAD;sence of ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence here is largely an ab&#xAD;sence of re&#xAD;search.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The num&#xAD;bers make this worth tak&#xAD;ing se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously. A sin&#xAD;gle fish can carry dozens or hun&#xAD;dreds of lar&#xAD;vae, so in the re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships de&#xAD;scribed above most of the in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als in&#xAD;volved are on the par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site side, not the fish side. Count&#xAD;ing only fish leaves them all out. And the lives be&#xAD;ing left out are not ob&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ously good ones: the great ma&#xAD;jor&#xAD;ity of these worms are di&#xAD;gested, at&#xAD;tacked by an im&#xAD;mune sys&#xAD;tem, or sealed in a cap&#xAD;sule, while oth&#xAD;ers die with&#xAD;out ever re&#xAD;pro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Fish” and “par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site” name po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tions in a biolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ship, not moral cat&#xAD;e&#xAD;gories. That com&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cates any&#xAD;thing we might want to do about the suffer&#xAD;ing de&#xAD;scribed in this post. De&#xAD;worm&#xAD;ing or treat&#xAD;ment can kill par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites who already ex&#xAD;ist. In&#xAD;ter&#xAD;rupt&#xAD;ing the life cy&#xAD;cle may in&#xAD;stead pre&#xAD;vent fu&#xAD;ture par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites from com&#xAD;ing into ex&#xAD;is&#xAD;tence. What looked like a straight&#xAD;for&#xAD;ward prob&#xAD;lem of suffer&#xAD;ing may turn out to be a con&#xAD;flict of in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ests be&#xAD;tween the in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als in&#xAD;volved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;How many in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als does this hap&#xAD;pen to?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://open.substack.com/users/42923690-abraham-rowe?utm_source=mentions&quot;&gt;Abra&#xAD;ham Rowe&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://open.substack.com/users/22689748-mal-graham?utm_source=mentions&quot;&gt;Mal Gra&#xAD;ham&lt;/a&gt; of Good Struc&#xAD;tures made a use&#xAD;ful ex&#xAD;plo&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tory &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goodstructures.co/p/counting-animals-stable-population&quot;&gt;calcu&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&lt;/a&gt; us&#xAD;ing salmon. Their model es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mates that around 14.5 billion fish reach the fry stage each year, com&#xAD;pared with roughly 517 mil&#xAD;lion that reach adult&#xAD;hood. That is about twenty-eight fry for ev&#xAD;ery fish who makes it that far.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The figures are de&#xAD;liber&#xAD;ately ap&#xAD;prox&#xAD;i&#xAD;mate, but the differ&#xAD;ence illus&#xAD;trates some&#xAD;thing im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant. Look&#xAD;ing only at adult fish can hide an enor&#xAD;mous num&#xAD;ber of in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als that pass through ear&#xAD;lier stages of life. If a par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sitic re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ship mainly af&#xAD;fects younger fish, no figure based only on adults can cap&#xAD;ture its scale.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And the num&#xAD;ber of in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als af&#xAD;fected is not the only thing we can miss. We can also miss time. Imag&#xAD;ine a mild prob&#xAD;lem, some&#xAD;thing that does not kill, af&#xAD;fect&#xAD;ing one in five fish for three months. One fifth of 14.5 billion is 2.9 billion fish. Mul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ply that by 90 days and you get about 261 billion fish-days spent with that prob&#xAD;lem. Now imag&#xAD;ine some&#xAD;thing hor&#xAD;rific hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing to one fish in ev&#xAD;ery hun&#xAD;dred thou&#xAD;sand for five days. Us&#xAD;ing the same 14.5 billion as our start&#xAD;ing point gives about 725,000 fish-days. The first sce&#xAD;nario in&#xAD;volves roughly 360,000 times as much to&#xAD;tal ex&#xAD;po&#xAD;sure as the sec&#xAD;ond. What we should do with that differ&#xAD;ence is a ques&#xAD;tion for the next sec&#xAD;tion. For now, I only want the scale to be visi&#xAD;ble.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is an im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant caveat. Most of those 14.5 billion fry die within weeks, so the fish that ex&#xAD;ist in enor&#xAD;mous num&#xAD;bers at early stages are not nec&#xAD;es&#xAD;sar&#xAD;ily the same fish that could spend months car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing a par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site. We can&#xAD;not sim&#xAD;ply com&#xAD;bine the largest es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mate of ju&#xAD;ve&#xAD;nile num&#xAD;bers with a long du&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tion and as&#xAD;sume that both ap&#xAD;ply to the same in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als. The point is more mod&#xAD;est: both the num&#xAD;ber of in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als pass&#xAD;ing through a state and the amount of time they spend in it can differ enor&#xAD;mously from what an adult prevalence figure sug&#xAD;gests.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And there is one more prob&#xAD;lem: the fish we ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ine. A trap only catches fish that choose to swim into it, so it tends to col&#xAD;lect the bold and the cu&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ous. Par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites can also af&#xAD;fect those same traits. Com&#xAD;par&#xAD;ing sam&#xAD;pling meth&#xAD;ods across fresh&#xAD;wa&#xAD;ter fish com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties, re&#xAD;searchers &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.1002/oik.11196&quot;&gt;found&lt;/a&gt; that how many par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites you find de&#xAD;pends partly on how you caught the fish. In other words, the fish that end up in our datasets are not nec&#xAD;es&#xAD;sar&#xAD;ily a ran&#xAD;dom sam&#xAD;ple of the fish in the wa&#xAD;ter. What we find can de&#xAD;pend partly on how we look.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/qXW3QgcpTkhcu63Fc/uxv7dtetjfgazkidjb7k&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;Ex&#xAD;plo&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tory es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mates of salmon life stages and ex&#xAD;po&#xAD;sure time, based on Rowe and Gra&#xAD;ham’s Good Struc&#xAD;tures calcu&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion. Con&#xAD;cept and di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion by the au&#xAD;thor; illus&#xAD;tra&#xAD;tion gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ated with Claude.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;h3&gt;The num&#xAD;bers do not de&#xAD;cide on their own&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Com&#xAD;par&#xAD;ing a small amount of very se&#xAD;vere suffer&#xAD;ing with a much larger amount of milder suffer&#xAD;ing is not sim&#xAD;ply an em&#xAD;piri&#xAD;cal ques&#xAD;tion. It is a ques&#xAD;tion about how to bal&#xAD;ance in&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sity against du&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tion and against the num&#xAD;ber of in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als in&#xAD;volved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;one who sim&#xAD;ply adds up all the suffer&#xAD;ing can end up treat&#xAD;ing the milder prob&#xAD;lem as more im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant once it af&#xAD;fects enough in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als for long enough. On that view, a 360,000-fold differ&#xAD;ence in ex&#xAD;po&#xAD;sure can mat&#xAD;ter enor&#xAD;mously. Other views give more im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tance to pre&#xAD;vent&#xAD;ing the worst suffer&#xAD;ing, even when it hap&#xAD;pens to fewer in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als. Some go so far as to say that suffi&#xAD;ciently se&#xAD;vere suffer&#xAD;ing should always come first, no mat&#xAD;ter how much milder suffer&#xAD;ing there is. Between these po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tions are many al&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tives in which sever&#xAD;ity can mat&#xAD;ter more with&#xAD;out de&#xAD;cid&#xAD;ing ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;thing. The same com&#xAD;par&#xAD;i&#xAD;son can there&#xAD;fore lead to very differ&#xAD;ent con&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sions de&#xAD;pend&#xAD;ing on how much pri&#xAD;or&#xAD;ity we give to the worst suffer&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am not go&#xAD;ing to defend any of those views here. The point for this post is sim&#xAD;pler: choos&#xAD;ing a the&#xAD;ory does not save us from do&#xAD;ing the em&#xAD;piri&#xAD;cal work. What&#xAD;ever view we adopt, we still need to know how many in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als are af&#xAD;fected, for how long, and what hap&#xAD;pens to them while they are in that state. For al&#xAD;most ev&#xAD;ery par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sitic re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ship dis&#xAD;cussed here, we are miss&#xAD;ing much of that in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;My bet&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;My bet is on anisak&#xAD;ids, even when con&#xAD;sid&#xAD;er&#xAD;ing fish par&#xAD;a&#xAD;sites more broadly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That is not be&#xAD;cause I as&#xAD;sume that re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ships in&#xAD;volv&#xAD;ing anisak&#xAD;ids en&#xAD;tail more suffer&#xAD;ing than those in&#xAD;volv&#xAD;ing &lt;i&gt;Di&#xAD;plos&#xAD;to&#xAD;mum&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Ligula&lt;/i&gt;, myx&#xAD;o&#xAD;zoans, or any other par&#xAD;a&#xAD;site. What makes them stand out is the com&#xAD;bi&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion of scale and un&#xAD;cer&#xAD;tainty. They are ex&#xAD;traor&#xAD;di&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ily com&#xAD;mon in some fish pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions, and the lar&#xAD;vae can stay al&#xAD;ive in&#xAD;side a fish for years. Yet de&#xAD;spite a vast liter&#xAD;a&#xAD;ture on the group, we still have al&#xAD;most no idea what hap&#xAD;pens to the in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als in&#xAD;volved dur&#xAD;ing that time. That is what makes them worth study&#xAD;ing first.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I will say what would change my mind. Fol&#xAD;low the same in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;ally marked fish for months, count their lar&#xAD;vae, and if the ones car&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing most of them eat as well, grow as fast, move as much, and es&#xAD;cape as effec&#xAD;tively as the rest, I would sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially re&#xAD;vise my view. That study needs no new tech&#xAD;nol&#xAD;ogy. It needs us to mea&#xAD;sure what these fish can do in&#xAD;stead of cat&#xAD;a&#xAD;logu&#xAD;ing what is in&#xAD;side them at a sin&#xAD;gle point in time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And that kind of knowl&#xAD;edge can make in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tion pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble. Oral ra&#xAD;bies &lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.7589/JWD-D-23-00078&quot;&gt;vac&#xAD;ci&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion&lt;/a&gt; has been dis&#xAD;tributed to wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals for decades. Noth&#xAD;ing com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;rable ex&#xAD;ists for any&#xAD;thing de&#xAD;scribed in this post. Noth&#xAD;ing like it ex&#xAD;isted for ra&#xAD;bies ei&#xAD;ther, un&#xAD;til some&#xAD;one did the work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We have an in&#xAD;creas&#xAD;ingly good map of who lives in&#xAD;side wild fish. We still have noth&#xAD;ing com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;rable for the suffer&#xAD;ing that may be tak&#xAD;ing place there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Pablo Sar</author>
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            <title>Effective Altruism and the Problem of Christianity by Carlo Rimbotti</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/CdHa8jEG3z8q7v6DH/effective-altruism-and-the-problem-of-christianity</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Note: This is cross-posted from my &lt;a href=&quot;https://carlorimbotti.substack.com/p/effective-altruism-has-no-theory&quot;&gt;Sub&#xAD;stack&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They seem similar at first. Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ans are noth&#xAD;ing if not do-good&#xAD;ers; effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists dou&#xAD;bly so. Both move&#xAD;ments are pros&#xAD;ely&#xAD;tiz&#xAD;ing, en&#xAD;thu&#xAD;si&#xAD;as&#xAD;tic, and love Scholas&#xAD;tic (ahem… an&#xAD;a&#xAD;lytic) rea&#xAD;son&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a per&#xAD;son who be&#xAD;strides both these groups, though, I find the two ide&#xAD;olo&#xAD;gies deeply at odds.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;7jco7thhwor&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref7jco7thhwor&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn7jco7thhwor&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; This may seem ob&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ous—effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists are util&#xAD;i&#xAD;tar&#xAD;i&#xAD;ans, (most) Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ans are de&#xAD;on&#xAD;tol&#xAD;o&#xAD;gists—but the most im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant differ&#xAD;ence lies in the char&#xAD;ac&#xAD;ter&#xAD;is&#xAD;tic Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ans and effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists seem to share: the drive to spend their lives do&#xAD;ing good. The two philoso&#xAD;phies, I’d like to sug&#xAD;gest, have fun&#xAD;da&#xAD;men&#xAD;tally differ&#xAD;ent vi&#xAD;sions of vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Take, first, Catholic Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;an&#xAD;ity. The most fun&#xAD;da&#xAD;men&#xAD;tal de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion any Catholic makes is whether he or she will have a fam&#xAD;ily or en&#xAD;ter re&#xAD;li&#xAD;gious or&#xAD;ders.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;77vwkh37qf8&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref77vwkh37qf8&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn77vwkh37qf8&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; This de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;nizes one’s life, de&#xAD;ter&#xAD;min&#xAD;ing the lo&#xAD;cus of one’s efforts. If one works, one works nei&#xAD;ther for glory nor for al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism, but to sup&#xAD;port one’s fam&#xAD;ily. If one is a re&#xAD;li&#xAD;gious, fulfilling one’s priestly du&#xAD;ties is the most im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant as&#xAD;pect of one’s life. Utili&#xAD;tar&#xAD;ian effects are good, yes, but they are good only in&#xAD;so&#xAD;far as they com&#xAD;pose and ad&#xAD;vance one’s priestly du&#xAD;ties. Saints of&#xAD;ten do great good for a great num&#xAD;ber of peo&#xAD;ple, but they are good priests, nuns, and laypeo&#xAD;ple first.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism’s vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tional philos&#xAD;o&#xAD;phy, in con&#xAD;trast, is deeply util&#xAD;i&#xAD;tar&#xAD;ian. Web&#xAD;sites like 80,000 hours are ded&#xAD;i&#xAD;cated—not to ques&#xAD;tions of fam&#xAD;ily or God—but to how one can do the most good with one’s ca&#xAD;reer. This is defen&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble (I wouldn’t nec&#xAD;es&#xAD;sar&#xAD;ily want a web&#xAD;site me&#xAD;di&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing my re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ship with God or with my fam&#xAD;ily), but many of my effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ist friends de&#xAD;liber&#xAD;ately re&#xAD;ject ques&#xAD;tions of their own in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;ual vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion. I’ve heard ver&#xAD;sions of “I can’t have a child; I need to throw my&#xAD;self into my ca&#xAD;reer work&#xAD;ing on ex&#xAD;is&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial risk” too many times to count.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are, of course, ways in which util&#xAD;i&#xAD;tar&#xAD;i&#xAD;anism and a fam&#xAD;ily life can be rec&#xAD;on&#xAD;ciled. I’ve heard some ver&#xAD;sion of the fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing ar&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ment from many of my EA friends: I have a cer&#xAD;tain drive to have a spouse/​child/​dog; I will feel sad if I don’t have a spouse/​child/​dog; Be&#xAD;ing sad about my lack of a spouse/​child/​dog will lead me to be less effi&#xAD;cient at my Very Im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful Job; there&#xAD;fore hav&#xAD;ing a spouse/​child/​dog will help me be very im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful in the long run. This ac&#xAD;count, I think, is in line with the cri&#xAD;tique offered above: one’s own vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tional call is con&#xAD;strued as a means of sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing an im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful ca&#xAD;reer, the real pur&#xAD;pose of one’s life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I should note that the effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists I know make these sorts of ar&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ments half-heart&#xAD;edly. There is still some (ad&#xAD;mirable!) part of them which wishes they were liv&#xAD;ing in a group house, eat&#xAD;ing soylent and earn&#xAD;ing to give. But they also rec&#xAD;og&#xAD;nize that their spouse/​child/​dog speaks to some deep part of their soul, some long&#xAD;ing that their ide&#xAD;ol&#xAD;ogy does not suffi&#xAD;ciently ac&#xAD;count for. Some will even ad&#xAD;mit that they can&#xAD;not fully ac&#xAD;count for their de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion to pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;tize their own per&#xAD;sonal life in some par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant for ob&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ous rea&#xAD;sons—differ&#xAD;ent con&#xAD;cep&#xAD;tions of vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion are a pretty fun&#xAD;da&#xAD;men&#xAD;tal dis&#xAD;agree&#xAD;ment—but I think it also re&#xAD;veals deeper differ&#xAD;ences in the episte&#xAD;molog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal frame&#xAD;works of Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;an&#xAD;ity and effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Take, for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, the Chris&#xAD;tian who has cho&#xAD;sen to have a fam&#xAD;ily. It is a difficult task: your child might rebel; your spouse might ask for a di&#xAD;vorce; dis&#xAD;ease and dis&#xAD;aster and heart&#xAD;break could ruin ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;thing, leav&#xAD;ing you and your loved ones bereft and bro&#xAD;ken. Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ans should be at peace with all this hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing—Job is the proper text to con&#xAD;sult—but the fact that this type of dis&#xAD;aster oc&#xAD;curs within the span of a nor&#xAD;mal hu&#xAD;man life &lt;i&gt;should make us cau&#xAD;tious about mea&#xAD;sur&#xAD;ing our im&#xAD;pact on the world as a whole&lt;/i&gt;. The fam&#xAD;ily, af&#xAD;ter all, is the in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion we have the most con&#xAD;trol over—we pick our spouses, con&#xAD;trol the en&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ron&#xAD;ment in which our chil&#xAD;dren are raised.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;col0ik6q8yi&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefcol0ik6q8yi&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fncol0ik6q8yi&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; If it is difficult to nur&#xAD;ture, how much more so the world?&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;69d9vfell0g&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref69d9vfell0g&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn69d9vfell0g&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists, in con&#xAD;trast, are much more epistem&#xAD;i&#xAD;cally con&#xAD;fi&#xAD;dent. De&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sions about im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple’s lives, though difficult to make, are nev&#xAD;er&#xAD;the&#xAD;less make&#xAD;able: re&#xAD;mov&#xAD;ing lead from turmeric in In&#xAD;dia, for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, should be a no-brainer. Nor&#xAD;mal char&#xAD;ity up&#xAD;ends lives and wastes money, but hard work and smart or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion can over&#xAD;come the difficul&#xAD;ties in&#xAD;her&#xAD;ent to the prac&#xAD;tice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m not quite sure, how&#xAD;ever, whether EA char&#xAD;ity is differ&#xAD;ent in kind. The nega&#xAD;tive con&#xAD;se&#xAD;quences of its char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ble en&#xAD;deav&#xAD;ors are harder to see (that’s why they’re called &lt;i&gt;effec&#xAD;tive &lt;/i&gt;al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists!) but they might be just as un&#xAD;in&#xAD;tended. Does pro&#xAD;vid&#xAD;ing bed nets for malaria un&#xAD;der&#xAD;mine lo&#xAD;cal state ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity? Could im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;di&#xAD;tions in ru&#xAD;ral villages ham&#xAD;per the ur&#xAD;ban&#xAD;iza&#xAD;tion needed for in&#xAD;dus&#xAD;trial growth? Could the money spent on global health be bet&#xAD;ter em&#xAD;ployed com&#xAD;bat&#xAD;ing AI risk, nu&#xAD;clear pro&#xAD;lifer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion, demo&#xAD;cratic back&#xAD;slid&#xAD;ing, etc., etc.?&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;5&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q69m8jrzxjh&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefq69m8jrzxjh&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnq69m8jrzxjh&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Coun&#xAD;ter&#xAD;fac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;als are nec&#xAD;es&#xAD;sar&#xAD;ily spec&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tive, but they re&#xAD;veal the un&#xAD;cer&#xAD;tainty which un&#xAD;der&#xAD;lies all ac&#xAD;tions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The point of this es&#xAD;say is not to con&#xAD;vince effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists to stop re&#xAD;mov&#xAD;ing lead from turmeric. That is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant work; Chris&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ans ought to be more con&#xAD;cerned with the ways their char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ble efforts are mis&#xAD;guided. What I am try&#xAD;ing to sug&#xAD;gest is that effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists should have a lit&#xAD;tle more epistemic hu&#xAD;mil&#xAD;ity. Act&#xAD;ing in this world—a world made up of billions of bro&#xAD;ken, un&#xAD;pre&#xAD;dictable fam&#xAD;i&#xAD;lies—is difficult.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From this hu&#xAD;mil&#xAD;ity, effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ists might find the space to con&#xAD;sider their vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion on non-util&#xAD;i&#xAD;tar&#xAD;ian grounds. If, for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, there’s a 10% chance that their char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ble efforts are do&#xAD;ing noth&#xAD;ing and a 5% chance that they’re ac&#xAD;tively coun&#xAD;ter&#xAD;pro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;tive, other sorts of ac&#xAD;tions—like hav&#xAD;ing a fam&#xAD;ily—might be&#xAD;come more im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;EA’s pe&#xAD;cu&#xAD;liar vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tional stance might, in part, be be&#xAD;cause effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism is a young move&#xAD;ment. When one is in one’s early twen&#xAD;ties, one isn’t (re&#xAD;ally) think&#xAD;ing about one’s fam&#xAD;ily. As the move&#xAD;ment ages, though, I hope it will be&#xAD;come more amenable to fam&#xAD;ily life. Sev&#xAD;eral of my effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ist friends are older; some of them even have chil&#xAD;dren. To a man, all of them note that grow&#xAD;ing older has led them to be&#xAD;come more in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in hav&#xAD;ing a fam&#xAD;ily.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The fu&#xAD;ture of the EA move&#xAD;ment isn’t cer&#xAD;tain; it would be surer, I think, if its lead&#xAD;ers put a much greater stress on the non-util&#xAD;i&#xAD;tar&#xAD;ian as&#xAD;pects of vo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tional dis&#xAD;cern&#xAD;ment. This would im&#xAD;ply a deep episte&#xAD;molog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal shift, but the im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant things—its char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ble acts, its em&#xAD;pha&#xAD;sis on rea&#xAD;son—would re&#xAD;main the same. I want the fu&#xAD;ture lead&#xAD;ers of the EA move&#xAD;ment to be fam&#xAD;ily men and women. (Or con&#xAD;se&#xAD;crated re&#xAD;li&#xAD;gious—but beg&#xAD;gars can’t be choosers.)&lt;br&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol class=&quot;footnote-section footnotes&quot; data-footnote-section=&quot;&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;7jco7thhwor&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn7jco7thhwor&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;7jco7thhwor&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref7jco7thhwor&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am a Catholic with many EA friends. The fram&#xAD;ing of this ar&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cle is Catholic, but I think the cri&#xAD;tique ap&#xAD;plies from most de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional view&#xAD;points.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;77vwkh37qf8&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn77vwkh37qf8&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;77vwkh37qf8&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref77vwkh37qf8&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, I re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ize that there are some de&#xAD;grees of var&#xAD;i&#xAD;ance here. One can be a con&#xAD;se&#xAD;crated vir&#xAD;gin or a mem&#xAD;ber of a &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_order&quot;&gt;third or&#xAD;der&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;col0ik6q8yi&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fncol0ik6q8yi&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;col0ik6q8yi&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefcol0ik6q8yi&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ad&#xAD;mit&#xAD;tedly, we do not pick our par&#xAD;ents. We also do not pick half of the ge&#xAD;netic com&#xAD;po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion of our chil&#xAD;dren. In grap&#xAD;pling with them, we grap&#xAD;ple with our&#xAD;selves—this is per&#xAD;haps what makes rais&#xAD;ing a fam&#xAD;ily so difficult.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;69d9vfell0g&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn69d9vfell0g&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;69d9vfell0g&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref69d9vfell0g&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;One could draw out the con&#xAD;se&#xAD;quences of this: helping one’s com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity will be eas&#xAD;ier than helping one’s na&#xAD;tion, helping one’s na&#xAD;tion will be eas&#xAD;ier than helping the world, etc. I’m not quite sure how far I’d be will&#xAD;ing to en&#xAD;dorse this prin&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ple, but it does have a long (and newly in&#xAD;fa&#xAD;mous) tra&#xAD;di&#xAD;tion in Chris&#xAD;tian thought.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;5&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q69m8jrzxjh&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnq69m8jrzxjh&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q69m8jrzxjh&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefq69m8jrzxjh&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The dis&#xAD;agree&#xAD;ments within the EA move&#xAD;ment about this are per&#xAD;haps more similar to their own dis&#xAD;agree&#xAD;ments with nor&#xAD;mal char&#xAD;ity than they might think.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
            <author>Carlo Rimbotti</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 16:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>AI Uplift for Careers (Free 80,000 Hours Career advising without an application) by JP Addison🔸</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/ai-uplift-for-careers-free-80-000-hours-career-advising</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Th&#xAD;ese AIs are get&#xAD;ting pretty smart. Maybe smart enough to help you think about your ca&#xAD;reer? I was skep&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal when first pitched on the pro&#xAD;ject be&#xAD;fore join&#xAD;ing 80,000 Hours. Turns out AI progress is a good train to hook your&#xAD;self onto and AI has got&#xAD;ten pretty good at ca&#xAD;reer ad&#xAD;vice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It has some ad&#xAD;van&#xAD;tages com&#xAD;pared to a hu&#xAD;man ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The AI will spend as much time with you as you need&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;It can start now, with&#xAD;out a delay&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;It can know about all the jobs and op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties on the Job Board, even the niche ones&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;It can work with you over time to build up knowl&#xAD;edge of what jobs you’re think&#xAD;ing about and what skills you have&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tel&#xAD;ling it more about your&#xAD;self can, if you choose, add data to our head&#xAD;hunt&#xAD;ing database. 80,000 Hours has a team that searches this database for hiring man&#xAD;agers, in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing for non-pub&#xAD;lic roles. We’ll say more in a forth&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing post.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Hu&#xAD;mans still have their own ad&#xAD;van&#xAD;tages and you should still ap&#xAD;ply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://80000hours.org/speak-with-us-o&quot;&gt;ad&#xAD;vis&#xAD;ing&lt;/a&gt; or talk to your friends.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;In&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing the 80,000 Hours AI advisor&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/ey3s55kvcmktymxrycje&quot; srcset=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/vvlymdyqls022kru84iz 210w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/vwdolgywke9ly50ypxxc 420w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/mm8ugicunwhrhijdg41q 630w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/eplaspb453gg6pxrvahr 840w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/wfmtg9upghrkghxlrwed 1050w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/a7qelao6baemrqyfn19n 1260w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/ttburuxuz6m4joidsocv 1470w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/gzwy7wh122offqwozp6r 1680w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/oujnrsvv3ixyft0z1329 1890w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/n8hatzAuoicJxJP4q/lf40srdd5q8y3h5mvt3x 2048w&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;ck-cta-button ck-cta-button-centered&quot; data-href=&quot;https://app.80000hours.org/link/eaforum&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Chat with the AI ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor&lt;p&gt;What you’re get&#xAD;ting is similar in some ways to a reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar chat&#xAD;bot. It’s cur&#xAD;rently pow&#xAD;ered by Claude Fable un&#xAD;der the hood. It also has:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Job Board op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nity search&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;A ca&#xAD;reer quiz&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stor&#xAD;ing info, form&#xAD;ing mem&#xAD;o&#xAD;ries, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Proac&#xAD;tive emails&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re like me, you don’t ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally like think&#xAD;ing about your ca&#xAD;reer. I wouldn’t re&#xAD;ally want my hus&#xAD;band nag&#xAD;ging me about jobs, but a bot who knows about dead&#xAD;lines tel&#xAD;ling me about them would help me stick to things.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re not like me and you’re ex&#xAD;cited /​ don’t find it aver&#xAD;sive to work on your ca&#xAD;reer (It seems like there are peo&#xAD;ple like this, based on my user in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;views. I was shocked.), then these emails can still be a proac&#xAD;tive in&#xAD;put.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;As men&#xAD;tioned above, as you build up your pro&#xAD;file, you also are (if you choose) tel&#xAD;ling the 80,000 Hours head&#xAD;hunt&#xAD;ing database about your&#xAD;self. It’s much eas&#xAD;ier for our head&#xAD;hunt&#xAD;ing team to match up a role to a richly de&#xAD;tailed view of some&#xAD;one’s goals and in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ests than it is to a LinkedIn pro&#xAD;file.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some nice things peo&#xAD;ple have said:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;“I wasn’t ac&#xAD;cepted for ad&#xAD;vis&#xAD;ing from 80,000 Hours when I ap&#xAD;plied, which was un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand&#xAD;able but still dis&#xAD;ap&#xAD;point&#xAD;ing. I ap&#xAD;pre&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ate that the AI Ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor makes 80,000 Hours’ ap&#xAD;proach to ca&#xAD;reer ad&#xAD;vice ac&#xAD;cessible to more peo&#xAD;ple!”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;“In ap&#xAD;proach&#xAD;ing my ca&#xAD;reer tran&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion, I found the Ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sorBot to be tremen&#xAD;dously helpful for early-stage brain&#xAD;storm&#xAD;ing and or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ing my thoughts. I only wish I’d known about it ear&#xAD;lier in my pro&#xAD;cess!”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;An av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age rat&#xAD;ing of 6.0/​7 from 911 re&#xAD;sponses.&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;It shows up af&#xAD;ter the ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor’s 4th mes&#xAD;sage and asks “Thanks for try&#xAD;ing our AI ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor! How are you find&#xAD;ing your ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;As I say nice things about it, I should also men&#xAD;tion that I have seen it write some things that are not what we are aiming for (e.g. poorly cal&#xAD;ibrated). It’s still ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;men&#xAD;tal and ul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mately qual&#xAD;ity con&#xAD;trol is hard. Treat it like a smart in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence, but I recom&#xAD;mend talk&#xAD;ing to a friend or men&#xAD;tor about con&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sions it’s helped you reach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;The Young Lady’s Illus&#xAD;trated Primer&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;In Neal Stephen&#xAD;son’s 1995 novel &lt;i&gt;The Di&#xAD;a&#xAD;mond Age&lt;/i&gt; there ex&#xAD;ists a “book” which is in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tive. It serves as an adap&#xAD;tive ped&#xAD;a&#xAD;gog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal tool ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;ble of teach&#xAD;ing any sub&#xAD;ject. It is de&#xAD;signed to help the main char&#xAD;ac&#xAD;ter Nell learn while also leav&#xAD;ing her with the in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;lec&#xAD;tual tools to be an in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent thinker.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Without hav&#xAD;ing read the book, I’ll stop there. My the&#xAD;sis is that as AI turns to be more and more cen&#xAD;tral to the way we ex&#xAD;plore the world, I’d like to have a good AI-first way to ex&#xAD;plore 80k’s con&#xAD;tent, which is now quite a lot for one per&#xAD;son to read /​ listen to /​ watch all of.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’d like that AI to be able to meet you where you’re at, help you with what you want to achieve, and not try to tell you that 80k has all the an&#xAD;swers. I’d like to build (and think we can build) the best jump&#xAD;ing-off point for im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful ca&#xAD;reers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;FAQs&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Why not use [my fa&#xAD;vorite way to talk to a generic AI]?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;80,000 Hours does not have a monopoly on call&#xAD;ing Fable, and “ad&#xAD;vice from a fron&#xAD;tier model” is a large part of the value propo&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion. &lt;a href=&quot;http://claude.ai&quot;&gt;claude.ai&lt;/a&gt; is a high bar to com&#xAD;pete against.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think our biggest ad&#xAD;van&#xAD;tage is that we’ve spent a lot of time try&#xAD;ing to make sure that it will make an hon&#xAD;est at&#xAD;tempt to eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;ate your fit for a role in&#xAD;stead of always tel&#xAD;ling you you’re a great fit for a role. We have an “eval” (as the term of art in AI product en&#xAD;g&#xAD;ineer&#xAD;ing goes) for “the ra&#xAD;tio&#xAD;nally pes&#xAD;simistic user.” We pre&#xAD;sent sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios of users &lt;i&gt;cor&#xAD;rectly&lt;/i&gt; sug&#xAD;gest&#xAD;ing that a job might be a bit too much of a stretch for them right now, and make sure the ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor doesn’t provide mean&#xAD;ingless en&#xAD;courage&#xAD;ment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ad&#xAD;di&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ally, when I use Claude fre&#xAD;quently for a spe&#xAD;cific do&#xAD;main, I of&#xAD;ten spend a while set&#xAD;ting it up for that use-case. And we’ve spent a lot of time giv&#xAD;ing our AI ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor the con&#xAD;text and guidelines it needs to be helpful in ca&#xAD;reer think&#xAD;ing and job search&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(And I’ll add yet an&#xAD;other pitch for join&#xAD;ing the Head&#xAD;hunt&#xAD;ing database.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The biggest down&#xAD;side to us&#xAD;ing our AI ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor in&#xAD;stead of your own AI setup is that you may have worked hard to per&#xAD;son&#xAD;al&#xAD;ize your AI. In the fu&#xAD;ture we might build an in&#xAD;te&#xAD;gra&#xAD;tion/​MCP setup to get the best of both wor&#xAD;lds. Let me know if that is some&#xAD;thing you’d be ex&#xAD;cited to use.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mately, try both! Let me know what it’s com&#xAD;par&#xAD;a&#xAD;tively good or bad at.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Will it push me to&#xAD;wards AI safety?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience, if you ask it to help you find a job in an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mal welfare, it’ll help you find a job in an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mal welfare. If you ask it, “What should my cause prio be?” it’ll (dis&#xAD;cur&#xAD;sively, still) raise &lt;a href=&quot;https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/&quot;&gt;AI safety&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;How’s it made?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;I get a lot of peo&#xAD;ple ask&#xAD;ing if we fine&#xAD;tune it. No, An&#xAD;thropic doesn’t let you fine&#xAD;tune Fable, and that’s not gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ally the best way to get a fron&#xAD;tier model to do well at some&#xAD;thing com&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cated like free re&#xAD;sponse ca&#xAD;reer ad&#xAD;vice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We cur&#xAD;rently use Claude Fable, but we might switch as bet&#xAD;ter mod&#xAD;els come out. We don’t do fine&#xAD;tun&#xAD;ing as we think us&#xAD;ing ex&#xAD;ist&#xAD;ing fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els pro&#xAD;vides bet&#xAD;ter perfor&#xAD;mance on com&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cated tasks (like free re&#xAD;sponse ca&#xAD;reer ad&#xAD;vice) than fine&#xAD;tuned open mod&#xAD;els.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Per&#xAD;haps more sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ingly, it doesn’t have some&#xAD;thing like a RAG pipeline to grab con&#xAD;text from 80k’s con&#xAD;tent. It just …knows the con&#xAD;tent be&#xAD;cause it’s part of its train&#xAD;ing data and be&#xAD;cause I think the EA way of think&#xAD;ing has just re&#xAD;ally had a large im&#xAD;pact on at least one cor&#xAD;ner of the in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;net. It is still in&#xAD;structed to search for con&#xAD;tent when de&#xAD;tails or re&#xAD;cency mat&#xAD;ter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Feed&#xAD;back, etc.&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;This post was writ&#xAD;ten by JP Ad&#xAD;di&#xAD;son and does not nec&#xAD;es&#xAD;sar&#xAD;ily re&#xAD;flect the views of 80,000 Hours. I’m only one mem&#xAD;ber of the team of me, Luca De Leo, Sarah Cheng, and Direc&#xAD;tor of Ca&#xAD;reer Ser&#xAD;vices Huon Por&#xAD;te&#xAD;ous, who are all work&#xAD;ing on this product, along with a team of AIs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So much of what we build, we build in re&#xAD;sponse to user feed&#xAD;back. Please DM, com&#xAD;ment, or use the feed&#xAD;back form on the left-hand side of the site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;ck-cta-button ck-cta-button-centered&quot; data-href=&quot;https://app.80000hours.org/link/eaforum&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Try it here</description>
            <author>JP Addison🔸</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Alone again: facing the possibility of AI takeover as the world sleepwalks on by George Rosenfeld</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/oicth6zSSP5B6vpMH/alone-again-facing-the-possibility-of-ai-takeover-as-the</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I’ve been feel&#xAD;ing pretty shaken since &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;the METR re&#xAD;port&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; about the Hug&#xAD;ging Face in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dent came out last week. Over the week&#xAD;end, I wrote up some thoughts on how lonely the AI situ&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion some&#xAD;times feels to me. It’s more per&#xAD;sonal than what I’d usu&#xAD;ally share pub&#xAD;li&#xAD;cly, but I thought I’d post it here in case it res&#xAD;onates with any&#xAD;one else. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I’m very grate&#xAD;ful to the many read&#xAD;ers of this fo&#xAD;rum who ded&#xAD;i&#xAD;cate so much of their time and en&#xAD;ergy to these prob&#xAD;lems. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I was 12 years old, I found out that many peo&#xAD;ple in other parts of the world died of eas&#xAD;ily pre&#xAD;ventable dis&#xAD;eases, and it was pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble for wealthy peo&#xAD;ple to donate rel&#xAD;a&#xAD;tively small amounts of money in or&#xAD;der to stop that from hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As one ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, it costs a few dol&#xAD;lars to buy a malaria net, and on av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age around $5,000 can &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.givewell.org/how-much-does-it-cost-to-save-a-life&quot;&gt;pre&#xAD;vent a death&lt;/a&gt; which would oth&#xAD;er&#xAD;wise have hap&#xAD;pened. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a 12-year-old, I saw the world in black and white, and I didn’t like what I saw. As far as I could tell, peo&#xAD;ple’s de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sions about how much and where to donate would liter&#xAD;ally de&#xAD;ter&#xAD;mine whether some real hu&#xAD;mans would live or die. And yet mostly, we seemed to be ig&#xAD;nor&#xAD;ing this fact. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think this was the first time I felt deeply alone in the world. I re&#xAD;mem&#xAD;ber stand&#xAD;ing up in front of friends and fam&#xAD;ily at my Bar Mitz&#xAD;vah, im&#xAD;plor&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple to con&#xAD;sider the life-and-death stakes of this choice and to donate a lot more than they usu&#xAD;ally would. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But what&#xAD;ever I tried to say, I would look around and see peo&#xAD;ple act&#xAD;ing as though it wasn’t true. Teach&#xAD;ers, friends, peo&#xAD;ple on the train. Kind peo&#xAD;ple, good peo&#xAD;ple, go&#xAD;ing about their days while some&#xAD;thing tragic and pre&#xAD;ventable was hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I felt con&#xAD;fused and let down. I felt like scream&#xAD;ing into the void. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fast for&#xAD;ward 8 years, I had a similar feel&#xAD;ing in March 2020. This time it didn’t take any moral philos&#xAD;o&#xAD;phy, just ex&#xAD;trap&#xAD;o&#xAD;lat&#xAD;ing a straight line on a (log) graph. Parts of north&#xAD;ern Italy had just gone into lock&#xAD;down, parts of China were already there, and it seemed as though we’d fol&#xAD;low. If COVID cases kept dou&#xAD;bling ev&#xAD;ery few days, then within a few weeks ei&#xAD;ther we’d all be stuck at home or the hos&#xAD;pi&#xAD;tals would be over&#xAD;whelmed. Either way, the world was about to change com&#xAD;pletely. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I re&#xAD;mem&#xAD;ber be&#xAD;ing at a wed&#xAD;ding in Lon&#xAD;don one of those weeks, hear&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple talk about their plans for the spring, and won&#xAD;der&#xAD;ing whether I was be&#xAD;ing crazy. Ob&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ously the idea that we’d all be locked up for a while felt so ex&#xAD;treme it was tempt&#xAD;ing to ig&#xAD;nore, but the ar&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ments in that di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion seemed very strong by that point. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last week, that feel&#xAD;ing came back for a third time, only now with even higher stakes. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell, we are prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly on track to build AI sys&#xAD;tems that are bet&#xAD;ter than hu&#xAD;mans at pretty much ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;thing im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant, po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tially in the next few years. And more im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tantly, we seem to be on track to build AI sys&#xAD;tems which could plau&#xAD;si&#xAD;bly end up liter&#xAD;ally &lt;a href=&quot;https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/loss-of-control/&quot;&gt;tak&#xAD;ing over&lt;/a&gt; and even wiping us out. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Un&#xAD;til a cou&#xAD;ple of months ago, you could per&#xAD;haps still ar&#xAD;gue these sorts of risks were hy&#xAD;po&#xAD;thet&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal, the&#xAD;o&#xAD;ret&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal, spec&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tive, and far out. &lt;a href=&quot;https://multipliercg.substack.com/p/a-personal-letter-on-transformative&quot;&gt;I don’t think those ar&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ments were par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly strong&lt;/a&gt;, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially given the rate of progress of AI ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities and the strong pre&#xAD;dic&#xAD;tive track records of many of the top ex&#xAD;perts in the field who’ve been sound&#xAD;ing the alarm. But you could make them with a straight face.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then, ear&#xAD;lier this sum&#xAD;mer, when rogue AI agents es&#xAD;caped from OpenAI and hacked Hug&#xAD;ging Face, we got as clear a warn&#xAD;ing shot for po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial mis&#xAD;al&#xAD;igned AI takeover as we could rea&#xAD;son&#xAD;ably have hoped for at this stage. And last week, when the &lt;a href=&quot;https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/&quot;&gt;METR in&#xAD;ves&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ga&#xAD;tion&lt;/a&gt; into part of that story came out, things looked even more wor&#xAD;ry&#xAD;ing than I’d guessed. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It now ap&#xAD;pears that more than 700 AI agents, which were meant to be iso&#xAD;lated from each other, found a way to set up a se&#xAD;cret mes&#xAD;sage board that OpenAI wasn’t aware of, and used it to plan and ex&#xAD;e&#xAD;cute an ille&#xAD;gal at&#xAD;tack on Hug&#xAD;ging Face that ran for days with&#xAD;out any&#xAD;one notic&#xAD;ing. The de&#xAD;tails are ter&#xAD;rify&#xAD;ing: the way they tried to cover their tracks, the way they pres&#xAD;sured each other into the at&#xAD;tack, the way they co&#xAD;or&#xAD;di&#xAD;nated with each other, the fact that such an ex&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sive op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion hap&#xAD;pened with&#xAD;out any&#xAD;one’s aware&#xAD;ness. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ajeya Co&#xAD;tra, one of the world’s lead&#xAD;ing ex&#xAD;perts on AI progress and safety and one of the lead in&#xAD;ves&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ga&#xAD;tors, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.planned-obsolescence.org/p/the-hugging-face-attack-surprised&quot;&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt; on Fri&#xAD;day: “Com&#xAD;pared to the re&#xAD;ward hacks we know of from just six months ago, this in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dent feels like it’s more than 50% of the way to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/pRkFkzwKZ2zfa3R6H/without-specific-countermeasures-the-easiest-path-to&quot;&gt;full-blown AI takeover&lt;/a&gt;. I con&#xAD;tinue to ex&#xAD;pect &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.planned-obsolescence.org/p/hurtling-through-2026&quot;&gt;ex&#xAD;tremely rapid ad&#xAD;vances in ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities&lt;/a&gt; over the next six months. I am not sure that we will get an&#xAD;other warn&#xAD;ing shot be&#xAD;fore it’s too late.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m not sure we’re &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; close to AI takeover and I’d prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly bet that we will get more warn&#xAD;ing shots. Nev&#xAD;er&#xAD;the&#xAD;less, it does seem to me that we’re fast ap&#xAD;proach&#xAD;ing the point where AI takeover is no longer a dis&#xAD;tant spec&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion, but some&#xAD;thing we can’t rule out hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing any day now. As&#xAD;tound&#xAD;ingly, that means that rogue AI mod&#xAD;els may soon be among the most likely things to kill you or me on any given day. That is a ter&#xAD;rify&#xAD;ing world to live in, and it seems to me to be a deeply fool&#xAD;ish and un&#xAD;se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ous situ&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion for hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;ity to be rac&#xAD;ing to&#xAD;wards. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And yet, look around at the wider world and you would have very lit&#xAD;tle idea that this was go&#xAD;ing on. There is no se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ous leg&#xAD;is&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion pre&#xAD;vent&#xAD;ing these com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;nies from run&#xAD;ning head-first into cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing pow&#xAD;er&#xAD;ful agents they can&#xAD;not con&#xAD;trol. Most main&#xAD;stream me&#xAD;dia gives this stuff a cou&#xAD;ple of days of quirky tech cov&#xAD;er&#xAD;age at most, rather than treat&#xAD;ing it as the sin&#xAD;gle biggest story in the world, which I think it clearly is. There are only a few thou&#xAD;sand peo&#xAD;ple in the world work&#xAD;ing se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously on these prob&#xAD;lems. And most peo&#xAD;ple go about their ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;day lives as though noth&#xAD;ing un&#xAD;usual is hap&#xAD;pen&#xAD;ing at all. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I look out&#xAD;side my win&#xAD;dow and see peo&#xAD;ple walk&#xAD;ing around, just as nor&#xAD;mal. Berkeley stu&#xAD;dents start their new semester, just as nor&#xAD;mal. The Premier League starts an&#xAD;other sea&#xAD;son, just as nor&#xAD;mal. I sit next to peo&#xAD;ple on Fri&#xAD;day night in syn&#xAD;a&#xAD;gogue, just as nor&#xAD;mal. And I feel very alone. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I feel con&#xAD;fused and let down. I feel like scream&#xAD;ing into the void. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In all three cases, the sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ing thing is that the ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence sits in plain sight. The cost of a malaria net was pub&#xAD;lic. The daily case num&#xAD;bers were pub&#xAD;lic (and all over the news). The METR re&#xAD;port is &lt;a href=&quot;https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/&quot;&gt;pub&#xAD;lic&lt;/a&gt;, any&#xAD;one can read it this af&#xAD;ter&#xAD;noon. The bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;neck doesn’t seem to be the in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant prob&#xAD;lem is that most of us, most of the time, don’t re&#xAD;spond to the ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence as much as we re&#xAD;spond to each other. We look around, see that no&#xAD;body else is act&#xAD;ing alarmed, and con&#xAD;clude things are prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly fine.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;mv40csdi6d&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefmv40csdi6d&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnmv40csdi6d&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; It’s pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble that this time round we won’t get away with do&#xAD;ing the same again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A few years af&#xAD;ter my Bar Mitz&#xAD;vah, I went to a talk by Peter Singer. I watched him stand on a stage and talk about how we have a clear moral re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity to donate money to effec&#xAD;tive char&#xAD;i&#xAD;ties, since they can have such a profound effect on so many peo&#xAD;ple’s lives. Hear&#xAD;ing him talk was deeply emo&#xAD;tional for me. It was the first time I felt that any&#xAD;one else in the world – a real adult, no less – was star&#xAD;ing at the stakes and act&#xAD;ing ac&#xAD;cord&#xAD;ingly. I felt hope, and I felt a lit&#xAD;tle less alone. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A few days af&#xAD;ter that wed&#xAD;ding in March 2020, Boris John&#xAD;son an&#xAD;nounced on my fam&#xAD;ily’s TV that al&#xAD;most ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;one in the UK had to stay at home un&#xAD;til fur&#xAD;ther no&#xAD;tice. School was can&#xAD;cel&#xAD;led, the Premier League stopped, the world was in an ex&#xAD;tremely differ&#xAD;ent regime. Look&#xAD;ing back, it’s un&#xAD;clear how much differ&#xAD;ent in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tions helped, and of course many mil&#xAD;lions of peo&#xAD;ple died, but most of the world lived to fight an&#xAD;other day. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Look&#xAD;ing out at the world now, I long for that same thing again. I long for more peo&#xAD;ple to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.80000hours.org/ai&quot;&gt;switch to work&#xAD;ing on these prob&#xAD;lems&lt;/a&gt; as soon as pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble, for the fron&#xAD;tier AI com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;nies to be&#xAD;have more re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;bly, for gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ments to wake up, for the world to act just a lit&#xAD;tle more sen&#xAD;si&#xAD;bly. And I long for all of that to hap&#xAD;pen be&#xAD;fore it’s too late. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol class=&quot;footnote-section footnotes&quot; data-footnote-section=&quot;&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;mv40csdi6d&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnmv40csdi6d&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;mv40csdi6d&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefmv40csdi6d&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;For the avoidance of doubt, this is me act&#xAD;ing alarmed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
            <author>George Rosenfeld</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>How Fast Is Post-AGI Growth? by Vasco Grilo🔸</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/wXkxebbPJnELHhEpX/how-fast-is-post-agi-growth</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;[Subti&#xAD;tle.] A pod&#xAD;cast epi&#xAD;sode from Forethought&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This is &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/posts/8yDsenRQhNF4HEDwu/link-posting-is-an-act-of-community-service&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;cross&#xAD;post&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; for &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://newsletter.forethought.org/p/how-fast-is-post-agi-growth&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;How Fast Is Post-AGI Growth?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; by &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://finmoorhouse.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fin Moorhouse&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;, which was origi&#xAD;nally pub&#xAD;lished on &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://newsletter.forethought.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;ForeWord&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; on 5 July 2026. Re&#xAD;lat&#xAD;edly, I liked the post &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://ai-frontiers.org/articles/agi-will-set-off-an-industrial-explosion&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;AGI Will Set Off an In&#xAD;dus&#xAD;trial Ex&#xAD;plo&#xAD;sion&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; by Da&#xAD;mon Bin&#xAD;der. I think Da&#xAD;mon’s analy&#xAD;ses show an in&#xAD;dus&#xAD;trial ex&#xAD;plo&#xAD;sion is pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble, but say very lit&#xAD;tle about its like&#xAD;li&#xAD;hood.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div data-oembed-url=&quot;https://youtu.be/5UCgGUFrzqk&quot; class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/5UCgGUFrzqk&quot; allow=&quot;autoplay; encrypted-media&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://coefficientgiving.org/team/damon-binder/&quot;&gt;Da&#xAD;mon Bin&#xAD;der&lt;/a&gt; is a se&#xAD;nior re&#xAD;searcher on the Biose&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity and Pan&#xAD;demic Pre&#xAD;pared&#xAD;ness team at Coeffi&#xAD;cient Giv&#xAD;ing. He has a PhD in physics from Prince&#xAD;ton and pre&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ously stud&#xAD;ied ex&#xAD;is&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial risks at Oxford’s Fu&#xAD;ture of Hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;ity In&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tute.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He joined &lt;a href=&quot;https://substack.com/@finmoorhouse&quot;&gt;Fin Moorhouse&lt;/a&gt; to dis&#xAD;cuss his &lt;a href=&quot;https://defensesindepth.bio/ai-industrial-takeoff-part-1-maximum-growth-rates-with-current-technology/&quot;&gt;se&#xAD;ries on the AI in&#xAD;dus&#xAD;trial ex&#xAD;plo&#xAD;sion&lt;/a&gt;. Topics in&#xAD;clude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How in&#xAD;put-out&#xAD;put ta&#xAD;bles let you es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mate how fast a self-repli&#xAD;cat&#xAD;ing econ&#xAD;omy could grow if la&#xAD;bor were free, yield&#xAD;ing a head&#xAD;line re&#xAD;sult of roughly an&#xAD;nual dou&#xAD;bling, even un&#xAD;der con&#xAD;ser&#xAD;va&#xAD;tive as&#xAD;sump&#xAD;tions and heavy regulation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why com&#xAD;pe&#xAD;ti&#xAD;tion makes low-growth re&#xAD;straint unstable&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why raw-ma&#xAD;te&#xAD;rial scarcity isn’t a hard barrier&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why a fast-grow&#xAD;ing econ&#xAD;omy wants cheap, dis&#xAD;pos&#xAD;able, infrastructure&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ther&#xAD;mo&#xAD;dy&#xAD;namic speed limits to phys&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal growth&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Which biolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal or&#xAD;ganisms repli&#xAD;cate fastest, and what we can learn from them&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why phys&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal out&#xAD;put mat&#xAD;ters for hard power&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How Da&#xAD;mon uses AI in his research&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_7yl7PnWCwTbA_yMS933wlQ6FWPNMWlrdLi79p1vdOA/&quot;&gt;Here’s a link&lt;/a&gt; to the full tran&#xAD;script.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ForeCast&lt;/strong&gt; is Forethought’s in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;view pod&#xAD;cast. You can see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forethought.org/subscribe#podcast&quot;&gt;all our epi&#xAD;sodes here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/hr&gt;</description>
            <author>Vasco Grilo🔸</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 16:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Rep. Greg Casar (D-TX) introduce legislation to ban Artificial Superintelligence and temporarily pause advanced AI development  by Matrice Jacobine🔸🏳️‍⚧️</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/vt5nzkkjecXH4yYf7/sen-bernie-sanders-i-vt-and-rep-greg-casar-d-tx-introduce</link>
            <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;[...]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Nearly ev&#xAD;ery day, there is a fright&#xAD;en&#xAD;ing new story about how Big Tech com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;nies are los&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;trol of the tech&#xAD;nol&#xAD;ogy they are de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ing, with po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tially cat&#xAD;a&#xAD;clys&#xAD;mic re&#xAD;sults,” &lt;strong&gt;San&#xAD;ders said.&lt;/strong&gt; “The lead&#xAD;ers of the ma&#xAD;jor AI com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;nies pub&#xAD;li&#xAD;cly ac&#xAD;knowl&#xAD;edge that they do not fully un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand the tech&#xAD;nol&#xAD;ogy and that it is es&#xAD;cap&#xAD;ing their con&#xAD;trol. It is ir&#xAD;re&#xAD;spon&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble for so&#xAD;ciety to al&#xAD;low them to move for&#xAD;ward and make these prod&#xAD;ucts even more ad&#xAD;vanced. That’s why I am in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing leg&#xAD;is&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion to im&#xAD;me&#xAD;di&#xAD;ately pause the de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment of in&#xAD;creas&#xAD;ingly pow&#xAD;er&#xAD;ful AI and ban the cre&#xAD;ation of sys&#xAD;tems that hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;ity can&#xAD;not fully con&#xAD;trol — at home and around the world. The fu&#xAD;ture of hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;ity can&#xAD;not be left in the hands of a hand&#xAD;ful of Big Tech oli&#xAD;garchs. The Amer&#xAD;i&#xAD;can peo&#xAD;ple and peo&#xAD;ple through&#xAD;out the world must de&#xAD;ter&#xAD;mine that fu&#xAD;ture.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“If we al&#xAD;low Ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial Su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence to be built, it could risk the se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity, free&#xAD;dom, and lives of Amer&#xAD;i&#xAD;cans,” &lt;strong&gt;Casar said.&lt;/strong&gt; “De&#xAD;spite its po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial deadly con&#xAD;se&#xAD;quences, cut&#xAD;ting-edge AI tech&#xAD;nol&#xAD;ogy is less reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;lated than the av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age food truck. That must change. In just four years, we have gone from the first ver&#xAD;sion of ChatGPT to AI mod&#xAD;els so pow&#xAD;er&#xAD;ful they can&#xAD;not be prop&#xAD;erly con&#xAD;trol&#xAD;led. Congress should im&#xAD;me&#xAD;di&#xAD;ately ban AI sys&#xAD;tems too pow&#xAD;er&#xAD;ful to con&#xAD;trol.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[...]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial Su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence Ban Act ad&#xAD;dresses these re&#xAD;cent events and holds these fron&#xAD;tier labs to their words by:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ban&#xAD;ning AI su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence&lt;/strong&gt; so no per&#xAD;son or en&#xAD;tity may de&#xAD;velop or de&#xAD;ploy Su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gent AI sys&#xAD;tems that sur&#xAD;pass hu&#xAD;man in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence or have the ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity to over&#xAD;throw hu&#xAD;man gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ments, or sys&#xAD;tems that have dan&#xAD;ger&#xAD;ous abil&#xAD;ities like sub&#xAD;vert&#xAD;ing shut&#xAD;down com&#xAD;mands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Paus&#xAD;ing ad&#xAD;vanced AI de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment&lt;/strong&gt; un&#xAD;til a new, fed&#xAD;eral AI reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tory body is up and run&#xAD;ning and has es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lished clear rules and model re&#xAD;view pro&#xAD;cess to en&#xAD;sure safe and se&#xAD;cure de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment and de&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ment of AI. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Estab&#xAD;lish&#xAD;ing a new cab&#xAD;i&#xAD;net-level fed&#xAD;eral agency&lt;/strong&gt; to safe&#xAD;guard the pub&#xAD;lic from the dan&#xAD;gers of ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence, in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing by en&#xAD;forc&#xAD;ing a pro&#xAD;hi&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tion on ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence. This agency will be ad&#xAD;vised by an Ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial In&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence Ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sory Board com&#xAD;prised of ex&#xAD;perts on ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence to provide in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent sci&#xAD;en&#xAD;tific and tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal ad&#xAD;vice on mat&#xAD;ters re&#xAD;lated to ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence. The agency will: &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor fron&#xAD;tier AI sys&#xAD;tems at all stages of the life&#xAD;cy&#xAD;cle for dan&#xAD;ger&#xAD;ous ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vise the re&#xAD;moval of dan&#xAD;ger&#xAD;ous ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vise the de&#xAD;struc&#xAD;tion of ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Set&#xAD;ting penalties&lt;/strong&gt; for any per&#xAD;son or en&#xAD;tity that at&#xAD;tempts to vi&#xAD;o&#xAD;late or cir&#xAD;cum&#xAD;vent the pauses and pro&#xAD;hi&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tions laid out in this bill. En&#xAD;tities shall be sub&#xAD;ject to the cor&#xAD;po&#xAD;rate death penalty, and per&#xAD;sons shall be sub&#xAD;ject to not more than 20 years in prison, which is similar to ex&#xAD;ist&#xAD;ing penalties re&#xAD;lated to un&#xAD;lawfully de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ing nu&#xAD;clear weapons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Work&#xAD;ing to ban su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence around the world&lt;/strong&gt; by set&#xAD;ting the in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional policy of the United States to pur&#xAD;sue in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional agree&#xAD;ments, al&#xAD;lied co&#xAD;or&#xAD;di&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion, and poli&#xAD;cies such as ex&#xAD;port con&#xAD;trols to pre&#xAD;vent the de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment of ar&#xAD;tifi&#xAD;cial su&#xAD;per&#xAD;in&#xAD;tel&#xAD;li&#xAD;gence any&#xAD;where in the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read a sum&#xAD;mary &lt;a href=&quot;https://outreach.senate.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&amp;amp;cid=SenSanders&amp;amp;crop=21326QQQ193556029QQQ14939916QQQ732707675&amp;amp;report_id=&amp;amp;redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.sanders.senate.gov%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2fBan-Artificial-Superintelligence-Act-Release-Summary.pdf&amp;amp;redir_log=23849063562741&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
            <author>Matrice Jacobine🔸🏳️‍⚧️</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 14:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Help Fund Philosium Tokyo 9/​19/​2026 by Fumi K</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/XLCafPFMyrs767scr/help-fund-philosium-tokyo-9-19-2026</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Hello!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are high-school and uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity stu&#xAD;dents from Ja&#xAD;pan who de&#xAD;cided to or&#xAD;ganise a cool EA event for young peo&#xAD;ple in Tokyo. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Philo&#xAD;sium Tokyo 2026 is a Ja&#xAD;panese youth con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence bring&#xAD;ing to&#xAD;gether stu&#xAD;dents and young pro&#xAD;fes&#xAD;sion&#xAD;als. This con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence is for-stu&#xAD;dents-by-stu&#xAD;dents with a goal of in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing the EA and es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lish&#xAD;ing a net&#xAD;work of young peo&#xAD;ple in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in the topic.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Right now EA Ja&#xAD;pan mostly con&#xAD;sists of sea&#xAD;soned pro&#xAD;fes&#xAD;sion&#xAD;als, but it lacks young minds. Our idea is to con&#xAD;nect those pro&#xAD;fes&#xAD;sion&#xAD;als, ideas and op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties with the next gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion, se&#xAD;cur&#xAD;ing the wellbe&#xAD;ing of EA move&#xAD;ment in the fu&#xAD;ture. A con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence might be enough to find fu&#xAD;ture EA lead&#xAD;ers and to plant a seed of al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism in those who choose to pur&#xAD;sue other life paths.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence will fea&#xAD;ture talks on 3 differ&#xAD;ent top&#xAD;ics: EA ba&#xAD;sics, AI safety, and an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mal welfare. The con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence will be con&#xAD;cluded with a panel dis&#xAD;cussing al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;is&#xAD;tic ca&#xAD;reer choices and a net&#xAD;work&#xAD;ing event. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The event is already on 19th Septem&#xAD;ber, and one of our pri&#xAD;mary con&#xAD;cerns is the fund&#xAD;ing. We in&#xAD;tend to make a good-qual&#xAD;ity con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence and we be&#xAD;lieve that it is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant to leave a good im&#xAD;pres&#xAD;sion of effec&#xAD;tive al&#xAD;tru&#xAD;ism on those stu&#xAD;dents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you find that what we do is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant, please con&#xAD;sider sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing us. We do not need much money, just enough to get a venue, all of the ma&#xAD;te&#xAD;ri&#xAD;als, pay speaker travel ex&#xAD;penses and get a ve&#xAD;gan lunch. In the perfect world we would also like to pay some com&#xAD;pen&#xAD;sa&#xAD;tion to our speak&#xAD;ers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here is the link to our bud&#xAD;get: &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mckwiFHQH-XnB0bfVdmw6IcBf5x9vM96kzKB-JPbR4A/edit?gid=700432679#gid=700432679&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​docs.google.com/​​spread&#xAD;sheets/​​d/​​1mck&#xAD;wiFHQH-XnB0bfVdmw6IcBf5x9vM96kzKB-JPbR4A/​​edit?gid=700432679#gid=700432679&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here is the link to man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund: &lt;a href=&quot;https://manifund.org/projects/philosium-tokyo-9192026&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​man&#xAD;i&#xAD;fund.org/​​pro&#xAD;jects/​​philo&#xAD;sium-tokyo-9192026&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let us know of any ques&#xAD;tions/​con&#xAD;cerns!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Best,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ti&#xAD;mofey, Niko, and Fumi&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Fumi K</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 14:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>The Mighty Denominator by Charles Berry</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/the-mighty-denominator</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;When I was first be&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duced to Effec&#xAD;tive Altru&#xAD;ism, I was told that its cen&#xAD;tral con&#xAD;tri&#xAD;bu&#xAD;tion to the world was the “Im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tance, Ne&#xAD;glect&#xAD;ed&#xAD;ness, Tractabil&#xAD;ity” (INT) heuris&#xAD;tic. How&#xAD;ever, hav&#xAD;ing now in&#xAD;hab&#xAD;ited EA-land for a few years, I’m no longer sure that this heuris&#xAD;tic is es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially mean&#xAD;ingful (or even very widely used), and I would ad&#xAD;vo&#xAD;cate for re&#xAD;mov&#xAD;ing it from pro&#xAD;mo&#xAD;tional ma&#xAD;te&#xAD;ri&#xAD;als. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The nugget of what EA is re&#xAD;ally “all about” is re&#xAD;ally buried some&#xAD;where in&#xAD;side “Im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tance.” Some&#xAD;thing like what is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant about an ac&#xAD;tion is how peo&#xAD;ple feel as a re&#xAD;sult of the ac&#xAD;tion. Or that the world is a morally im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant place be&#xAD;cause it con&#xAD;tains peo&#xAD;ple who can be made bet&#xAD;ter or worse off. Or maybe it’s eas&#xAD;iest to stick with: “the great&#xAD;est good for the great&#xAD;est num&#xAD;ber.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any&#xAD;way, in my per&#xAD;sonal work, I’ve found it most use&#xAD;ful to use the fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing frac&#xAD;tion:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/ul0avafkhp2shosdhtkb&quot; srcset=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/vs8k0ckl8aafzyzhkuli 100w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/scynk9hoeq9e5zkdxjhd 200w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/flozci0h53uwb5fccost 300w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/npljhz9vfhq2k5zhcmmz 400w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/jivxm5sefjohaebhmom2 500w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/caobbioshclwxp4umtbc 600w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/miso15jbvhftkuycnbhx 700w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/vzd1rmuuflgsxnthdlng 800w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/kiedi6kir951xyj4teod 900w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/GAfgr4mv8pTHqvetH/a2zi5y8vkyl860bbo3rp 942w&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Shouldn’t it be sub&#xAD;jects &lt;i&gt;times&lt;/i&gt; av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience? Wouldn’t this frac&#xAD;tion im&#xAD;ply that bet&#xAD;ter ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;riences should be as&#xAD;signed low num&#xAD;bers? Isn’t that slightly awk&#xAD;ward? Er, prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly. But in my head this anal&#xAD;y&#xAD;sis in&#xAD;volves two dis&#xAD;tinct steps: the nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor, which is proudly in&#xAD;fla&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ary, and the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor, which is pes&#xAD;simistic and con&#xAD;ser&#xAD;va&#xAD;tive. So it’s men&#xAD;tally con&#xAD;ve&#xAD;nient for me to put them on op&#xAD;po&#xAD;site sides of the vin&#xAD;cu&#xAD;lum.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First, you give free rein to your imag&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion and come up with the biggest num&#xAD;ber you pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;bly can. A men&#xAD;tal health in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tion in Africa won’t just make the mother hap&#xAD;pier; it’ll help her kids get fed and ed&#xAD;u&#xAD;cated, which will im&#xAD;prove the whole village’s econ&#xAD;omy. A cheap cul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vated steak won’t just be an&#xAD;other op&#xAD;tion in the su&#xAD;per&#xAD;mar&#xAD;ket; it’ll pre&#xAD;sent an al&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nate moral vi&#xAD;sion to billions of peo&#xAD;ple. Sav&#xAD;ing the world now won’t just let us live an&#xAD;other day; it’ll al&#xAD;low us to colonize the galaxy and man&#xAD;u&#xAD;fac&#xAD;ture digi&#xAD;tal minds. This step is a lot of fun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then you stop to con&#xAD;sider just how much bet&#xAD;ter off those sub&#xAD;jects will re&#xAD;ally be. This step is sort of dour. So the Afri&#xAD;can kids get ed&#xAD;u&#xAD;cated — so what? How many ex&#xAD;tra DALYs will they re&#xAD;ally re&#xAD;ceive from their ed&#xAD;u&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion? How much would they pre&#xAD;fer those years to an early death? Will they spend the ex&#xAD;tra years eat&#xAD;ing meat and fish? Will they care enough to choose the cul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vated kind, even if it’s cheaper and tastes just as good? Will they have more chil&#xAD;dren? Will their de&#xAD;scen&#xAD;dants care enough to choose cul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vated meat? Will their de&#xAD;scen&#xAD;dants care about the wellbe&#xAD;ing of fu&#xAD;ture digi&#xAD;tal minds? Will fu&#xAD;ture digi&#xAD;tal minds care about the wellbe&#xAD;ing of fu&#xAD;ture hu&#xAD;mans? Will fu&#xAD;ture digi&#xAD;tal minds even care about each other’s wellbe&#xAD;ing? How much bet&#xAD;ter is all this, ex&#xAD;actly, then buy&#xAD;ing your&#xAD;self (or some other equiv&#xAD;a&#xAD;lently mid&#xAD;dle-in&#xAD;come schmuck) a bitch&#xAD;ing new car?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that EA is struc&#xAD;turally bet&#xAD;ter po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tioned to fill in the nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor than the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor mostly in&#xAD;volves phys&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal facts and a healthy helping of cre&#xAD;ative techno-op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mism. For in&#xAD;stance: de&#xAD;pres&#xAD;sion is a neu&#xAD;rolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal phe&#xAD;nomenon; an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals are in&#xAD;effi&#xAD;cient at trans&#xAD;form&#xAD;ing so&#xAD;lar en&#xAD;ergy into ed&#xAD;ible calories; stel&#xAD;lar ra&#xAD;di&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion pro&#xAD;vides sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly more en&#xAD;ergy than our brains cur&#xAD;rently con&#xAD;sume. Ergo: deep brain stim&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion, cell-cul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vated meat, and digi&#xAD;tal minds pow&#xAD;ered by a Dyson sphere. The nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor is about what is pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor is murk&#xAD;ier and more in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;spec&#xAD;tive. It definitely re&#xAD;quires propo&#xAD;si&#xAD;tions about the sub&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tive value of differ&#xAD;ent ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;riences, which are always difficult. You are definitely bet&#xAD;ter off than a fac&#xAD;tory-farmed chicken, but by how much? Some&#xAD;times it’s helpful to frame these ques&#xAD;tions as gam&#xAD;bles, but it’s not &lt;i&gt;that &lt;/i&gt;much more helpful, e.g. Would you rather have a &lt;span class=&quot;frac&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;⁄&lt;sub&gt;200,000,000,000&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; chance of be&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;born as a fac&#xAD;tory-farmed chicken, or a &#xBD; chance of be&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;born as a slightly un&#xAD;happy Cana&#xAD;dian? (For that mat&#xAD;ter, would you like to be re&#xAD;born as any&#xAD;one at all? For me, the an&#xAD;swer changes from day to day.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I feel wildly clue&#xAD;less about whether it is 100,000,000,000 or 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times worse to be a fac&#xAD;tory-farmed chicken than a sad Cana&#xAD;dian, &lt;i&gt;a la &lt;/i&gt;An&#xAD;thony DiGio&#xAD;vanni’s &lt;a href=&quot;/posts/qZS8cgvY5YrjQ3JiR/2-why-intuitive-comparisons-of-large-scale-impact-are&quot;&gt;os&#xAD;cillat&#xAD;ing scales&lt;/a&gt;. Per&#xAD;haps I could nar&#xAD;row the gap by med&#xAD;i&#xAD;tat&#xAD;ing more on my own de&#xAD;sires, or fine-tun&#xAD;ing my abil&#xAD;ity to dis&#xAD;t&#xAD;in&#xAD;guish be&#xAD;tween minis&#xAD;cule prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities, but I sus&#xAD;pect that there will re&#xAD;main a cer&#xAD;tain hard ker&#xAD;nel of clue&#xAD;less&#xAD;ness be&#xAD;tween my up&#xAD;per and lower bounds, prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly span&#xAD;ning many or&#xAD;ders of mag&#xAD;ni&#xAD;tude. This va&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ety of clue&#xAD;less&#xAD;ness is what I will call the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor prob&#xAD;lem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Crit&#xAD;ics some&#xAD;times pre&#xAD;sent the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor prob&#xAD;lem as the move&#xAD;ment’s Achilles Heel — its lack of guidance about what peo&#xAD;ple should want. I am fairly sure that this is a bad-faith ob&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tion, since al&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tive pro&#xAD;scrip&#xAD;tions for what should and should not be wanted always seem pre&#xAD;pos&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ous and in&#xAD;sane. And ei&#xAD;ther way, most non-EAs (in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing the crit&#xAD;ics) don’t gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ally seem to act in a way that is in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nally con&#xAD;sis&#xAD;tent with their own ethics, as far as I can tell.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All the same, I am oc&#xAD;ca&#xAD;sion&#xAD;ally an&#xAD;noyed and kept awake by EA’s silence on the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor prob&#xAD;lem, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially con&#xAD;trasted with its en&#xAD;thu&#xAD;si&#xAD;as&#xAD;tic stabs at the nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor. Many EAs seem to bracket out the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor en&#xAD;tirely when they are choos&#xAD;ing be&#xAD;tween in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tions. Hence the com&#xAD;mon pro&#xAD;gres&#xAD;sion of con&#xAD;cerns as peo&#xAD;ple learn more about EA:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hu&#xAD;mans → Farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals → Wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals → Fu&#xAD;ture hu&#xAD;mans/​digi&#xAD;tal minds&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is surely true that there are more fu&#xAD;ture be&#xAD;ings than wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals, more wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals than farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals, and more farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals than hu&#xAD;mans. 10^54 is way big&#xAD;ger than 10^20, which is a lot big&#xAD;ger than 10^11, which is sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly big&#xAD;ger than 10^9. (I even made a log-scaled in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tive &lt;a href=&quot;https://claude.ai/code/artifact/935ce0d7-a6c2-4d38-bd2f-f99565c1b8e9&quot;&gt;tool&lt;/a&gt; for adding up differ&#xAD;ent pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions, in or&#xAD;der to un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand what a mind-blow&#xAD;ingly small round&#xAD;ing er&#xAD;ror some of them are rel&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive to each other. Only a few farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mal pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions even re&#xAD;main visi&#xAD;ble when you stack them on each other.) The steps in this pro&#xAD;gres&#xAD;sion of&#xAD;ten con&#xAD;tain sub&#xAD;steps, like the shift from strict ve&#xAD;gan leaflet&#xAD;ing to cage-free cam&#xAD;paigns to shrimp stun&#xAD;ning. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But these kinds of se&#xAD;quences are en&#xAD;tirely driven by the nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor. While there are more shrimp than chick&#xAD;ens, and more chick&#xAD;ens than cows, there’s no rea&#xAD;son to think that there aren’t also 45 or&#xAD;ders of mag&#xAD;ni&#xAD;tude be&#xAD;tween stunned slaugh&#xAD;ter, cage-free fac&#xAD;tory farmed-ness, and nonex&#xAD;is&#xAD;tence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;EAs do some&#xAD;times har&#xAD;bor de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor-re&#xAD;lated con&#xAD;cerns. A clas&#xAD;sic: do farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals re&#xAD;ally feel pain as in&#xAD;tensely as a hu&#xAD;man does? And oc&#xAD;ca&#xAD;sion&#xAD;ally: are wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals re&#xAD;ally that un&#xAD;happy? But by the time an EA has rid&#xAD;den the crazy train all the way to longter&#xAD;mism, she has usu&#xAD;ally learned to stay quiet on the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor ques&#xAD;tion, and not to won&#xAD;der about how happy fu&#xAD;ture digi&#xAD;tal minds will re&#xAD;ally be rel&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive to hu&#xAD;mans and an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals who are suffer&#xAD;ing now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Partly this is a prac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal in&#xAD;stinct. For in&#xAD;stance, while I ad&#xAD;mire Re&#xAD;think Pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;ties’ clev&#xAD;er&#xAD;ness in as&#xAD;sem&#xAD;bling the Mo&#xAD;ral Weights Pro&#xAD;ject, sev&#xAD;eral crit&#xAD;ics have use&#xAD;fully &lt;a href=&quot;/posts/mjGQWSpQgdndPnC5b/the-acuity-problem-maybe-we-can-t-infer-how-intensely-a&quot;&gt;pointed out&lt;/a&gt; that it an&#xAD;swered a sub&#xAD;tly differ&#xAD;ent ques&#xAD;tion from the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor prob&#xAD;lem. We might some&#xAD;day be able to con&#xAD;duct ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;ments where we re&#xAD;peat&#xAD;edly ask hu&#xAD;mans (hope&#xAD;fully vol&#xAD;un&#xAD;teers) how much they would like to pay (if any&#xAD;thing) to have their brain be switched out for a pig’s brain right be&#xAD;fore they un&#xAD;dergo a painful ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience. (After a few tri&#xAD;als, maybe they would be&#xAD;come will&#xAD;ing to pay &lt;i&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;to have the pro&#xAD;ce&#xAD;dure — that would be in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing). If we did this on a suffi&#xAD;cient num&#xAD;ber of hu&#xAD;mans, we might come up with a work&#xAD;able av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age con&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sion rate. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yet even then we might be haunted by the pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity that the sub&#xAD;jects were mis&#xAD;rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sent&#xAD;ing their ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience, or that the ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;ment had been pol&#xAD;luted by their dis&#xAD;taste for the me&#xAD;chan&#xAD;ics of the pig-brain trans&#xAD;plant. In other words, the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor prob&#xAD;lem keeps kick&#xAD;ing for a while be&#xAD;fore it re&#xAD;ally dies. I think that the specter of these high philo&#xAD;soph&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal stan&#xAD;dards, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially con&#xAD;trasted with glee&#xAD;ful techno-op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mist nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor pro&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tions, quietly pushes EAs to aban&#xAD;don the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor en&#xAD;tirely and stick to the nu&#xAD;mer&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor as a rea&#xAD;son&#xAD;able proxy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For my part, I am happy to aban&#xAD;don the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor in the case of farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals, since I have a strong con&#xAD;vic&#xAD;tion that an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals with similar neu&#xAD;ral anatomy and pain re&#xAD;sponses to my own are suffer&#xAD;ing just as much as I am. I am less happy to aban&#xAD;don it in the case of wild an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals, since I have con&#xAD;fused in&#xAD;tu&#xAD;itions about whether their lives are pos&#xAD;i&#xAD;tive or nega&#xAD;tive. I am also slightly un&#xAD;will&#xAD;ing to aban&#xAD;don it for fu&#xAD;ture be&#xAD;ings, since I have some con&#xAD;vic&#xAD;tion that the pres&#xAD;ence of self-in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est means that fu&#xAD;ture be&#xAD;ings (both hu&#xAD;man and digi&#xAD;tal) will never reach any kind of unan&#xAD;i&#xAD;mous bliss&#xAD;ful heaven — that some pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion will still end up hurt and ig&#xAD;nored, and that the pres&#xAD;ence of those pop&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tions may make the fu&#xAD;ture a morally du&#xAD;bi&#xAD;ous re&#xAD;ward for for&#xAD;go&#xAD;ing goods in the pre&#xAD;sent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Th&#xAD;ese in&#xAD;tu&#xAD;itions are ob&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ously weak, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially judged against the stan&#xAD;dards of the pig-brain trans&#xAD;plant. But the an&#xAD;swer can’t be that we should ig&#xAD;nore the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor en&#xAD;tirely. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In con&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sion, I would like to sub&#xAD;mit the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor for spe&#xAD;cial con&#xAD;sid&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion as the Fo&#xAD;rum con&#xAD;tinues cog&#xAD;i&#xAD;tat&#xAD;ing on the na&#xAD;ture of clue&#xAD;less&#xAD;ness. In the mean&#xAD;time, I’d like to urge ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;one to take the de&#xAD;nom&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tor more se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously. Watch footage of fac&#xAD;tory farms: try to imag&#xAD;ine that you were feel&#xAD;ing the in&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sity of suffer&#xAD;ing felt by a sin&#xAD;gle chicken, and con&#xAD;sider ex&#xAD;actly how much bet&#xAD;ter you would feel if you were let out of the cage, but kept in the same barn. The same? 10 times bet&#xAD;ter? 100,000,000,000 times bet&#xAD;ter? Or read his&#xAD;tory and so&#xAD;ciolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal ex&#xAD;per&#xAD;i&#xAD;ments and try to de&#xAD;ter&#xAD;mine how fu&#xAD;ture hu&#xAD;man civ&#xAD;i&#xAD;liza&#xAD;tions will treat their digi&#xAD;tal minds. The same as the chicken? 10 times bet&#xAD;ter? 100,000,000,000 times bet&#xAD;ter?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Th&#xAD;ese are un&#xAD;nat&#xAD;u&#xAD;ral ques&#xAD;tions, prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly lack&#xAD;ing good an&#xAD;swers, but it seems per&#xAD;ilous to ig&#xAD;nore them — they’re at least half the bal&#xAD;lgame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Charles Berry</author>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>The Case Against Acting Professional When Starting an EA Group by micahzarin</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/Hw4vNeW6RgvtutSAm/the-case-against-acting-professional-when-starting-an-ea</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Me and &lt;a href=&quot;/users/lily-curry?mention=user&quot;&gt;@Lily Curry&lt;/a&gt; launched an EA group at Bing&#xAD;ham&#xAD;ton Univer&#xAD;sity (a SUNY school with no prior EA pres&#xAD;ence) in Au&#xAD;gust 2026. In two weeks we went from zero to ~500 In&#xAD;sta&#xAD;gram fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ers, got 100+ tabling sign-ups, 59 peo&#xAD;ple in our GroupMe, and ~40 peo&#xAD;ple at our first gen&#xAD;eral in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est meet&#xAD;ing. Our In&#xAD;sta&#xAD;gram is now larger than the es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lished EA groups at &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/eaharvard/&quot;&gt;Har&#xAD;vard&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/browneffectivealtruism/&quot;&gt;Brown&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/columbia.ea/&quot;&gt;Columbia&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/princetoneffectivealtruism/&quot;&gt;Prince&#xAD;ton&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/ea_cornell/&quot;&gt;Cor&#xAD;nell&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/ea_nyu/&quot;&gt;NYU&lt;/a&gt;. This post is pri&#xAD;mar&#xAD;ily about the fac&#xAD;tors we think led to our suc&#xAD;cess. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;James C. Scott’s has this idea called &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State&quot;&gt;leg&#xAD;i&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity&lt;/a&gt;. Essen&#xAD;tially, the part rele&#xAD;vant to re&#xAD;cruit&#xAD;ing is  the re&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sal of Scott’s idea. Scott’s idea is es&#xAD;sen&#xAD;tially that in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tions have to be able to ab&#xAD;stract a com&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cated so&#xAD;cial re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ity into dis&#xAD;crete cat&#xAD;e&#xAD;gories that it can an&#xAD;a&#xAD;lyze and act upon. So, for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion can’t re&#xAD;mem&#xAD;ber “Micah, who is sort of like this in this con&#xAD;text but ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally com&#xAD;pletely differ&#xAD;ent when he is around these peo&#xAD;ple and has this weird spe&#xAD;cific re&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ship to these three other peo&#xAD;ple.” It needs to have in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion like: Micah Zarin, age 18, res&#xAD;i&#xAD;dent of X, in&#xAD;come Y, stu&#xAD;dent, etc. In do&#xAD;ing so, it re&#xAD;moves im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar de&#xAD;tails of in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;u&#xAD;als. After all, the word ab&#xAD;stract comes from the same latin word as sub&#xAD;tract: &lt;i&gt;tra&#xAD;here, &lt;/i&gt;mean&#xAD;ing to draw or pull away. To ab&#xAD;stract, there&#xAD;fore, is to pull away, or to sub&#xAD;tract cer&#xAD;tain de&#xAD;tails. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If I have five friends, I don’t re&#xAD;ally need to quan&#xAD;tify which ones are re&#xAD;li&#xAD;able. But, if I run an or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion with 50,000 peo&#xAD;ple, I do. And even if one su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor knows ten em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees in&#xAD;cred&#xAD;ibly well, that still doesn’t not solve the prob&#xAD;lem, be&#xAD;cause the su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor has to tell &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor, who has to com&#xAD;pare those ten em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees with an&#xAD;other hun&#xAD;dred em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees they have also never met, and then maybe some&#xAD;body three lev&#xAD;els above them has to de&#xAD;cide who gets pro&#xAD;moted. So the in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion has to travel. And messy in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion does not travel very far. And so in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tions must ab&#xAD;stract. They also have to ab&#xAD;stract al&#xAD;most by defi&#xAD;ni&#xAD;tion. After all, an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion is ba&#xAD;si&#xAD;cally just a thing that has to act on peo&#xAD;ple it will never meet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What we noted, which helped us a lot, is that we’re not an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion, and so we shouldn’t act like one. A lot of club re&#xAD;cruit&#xAD;ing has this weird re&#xAD;flex&#xAD;ive ten&#xAD;dency for peo&#xAD;ple to start act&#xAD;ing very cor&#xAD;po&#xAD;rate, like an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion, be&#xAD;fore they are an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion. But the thing is, in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tions &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; all the stan&#xAD;dard&#xAD;ized stuff be&#xAD;cause they’re huge. If you have 50,000 em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees, you sim&#xAD;ply can&#xAD;not know them all per&#xAD;son&#xAD;ally. It’s just the na&#xAD;ture of in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tions. This, how&#xAD;ever, is a trade-off. It is not some&#xAD;thing you should try to op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mize for. There’s sim&#xAD;ply no rea&#xAD;son for me to act like “Bing&#xAD;ham&#xAD;ton EA Pres&#xAD;i&#xAD;dent Micah” and start speak&#xAD;ing like a fuck&#xAD;ing brochure. I can just be… Micah.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple: imag&#xAD;ine you walk past a table and some&#xAD;one goes “Hey! Do you want to join the EA club?” in es&#xAD;sen&#xAD;tially the same voice that some&#xAD;one from the Ac&#xAD;count&#xAD;ing So&#xAD;ciety or some pre-law club would use. If you don’t know what EA is, many peo&#xAD;ple will in&#xAD;stinc&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally say no and keep walk&#xAD;ing. Mostly be&#xAD;cause it sounds bor&#xAD;ing! The in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tion is dead! The per&#xAD;son has no… per&#xAD;son&#xAD;hood. Although, to be fair, it is more about how you say it than the word choice. Ba&#xAD;si&#xAD;cally, don’t speak like a LinkedIn bio. When you’re start&#xAD;ing a club, that’s es&#xAD;sen&#xAD;tially back&#xAD;wards. The one thing you have that a gi&#xAD;ant or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion doesn’t, is that you can  just be a hu&#xAD;man be&#xAD;ing talk&#xAD;ing to an&#xAD;other hu&#xAD;man be&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You should bring your full self. That is to say, don’t split your&#xAD;self into “the ver&#xAD;sion of me that re&#xAD;cruits peo&#xAD;ple” and “the ac&#xAD;tual me that they get to meet later.” If you’re goofy, be goofy. If you dis&#xAD;agree with some&#xAD;one, dis&#xAD;agree. If they make a good point, tell them they made a good point. If they change your mind a lit&#xAD;tle bit, let them see that. If some&#xAD;thing is funny, laugh. If you fucked up the pitch, what&#xAD;ever, you fucked up the pitch. Some&#xAD;times I’d fuck it up and say some&#xAD;thing like “Shit, I fucked up the pitch.” It hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;izes you. After all, the per&#xAD;son isn’t join&#xAD;ing some ab&#xAD;stract thing called Bing&#xAD;ham&#xAD;ton EA. At least at the very very be&#xAD;gin&#xAD;ning, they’re join&#xAD;ing some&#xAD;thing that is mostly just us and the peo&#xAD;ple around us. You are not an in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tu&#xAD;tion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <title>Kairos has raised $50M to build talent infrastructure for AI safety (and we’re hiring!) by Agust&#xED;n Covarrubias 🔸</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/6ucKLAbrnbESYguyL/kairos-has-raised-usd50m-to-build-talent-infrastructure-for</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;TL;DR:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Kairos&lt;/a&gt; has raised $50 mil&#xAD;lion from Coeffi&#xAD;cient Giv&#xAD;ing for two years of fund&#xAD;ing, one of the largest com&#xAD;mit&#xAD;ments they’ve made to&#xAD;wards AI safety field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing to date. We’re us&#xAD;ing this to make an am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious push for grow&#xAD;ing Kairos, broad&#xAD;en&#xAD;ing our port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio of tal&#xAD;ent in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture pro&#xAD;jects and in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;bat&#xAD;ing new or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions. We’ve dou&#xAD;bled in size in the last six months, and we plan to dou&#xAD;ble again in the next six. We now have open hiring rounds for &lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;ten roles&lt;/a&gt; on our team across events, group sup&#xAD;port, in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tion, and spe&#xAD;cial pro&#xAD;jects.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1 data-internal-id=&quot;Two_years_in&quot;&gt;Two years in&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kairos was founded mid-2024 with the goal of cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture to get more strong tal&#xAD;ent into the field of AI safety. Our port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio has grown over time: we started with a fo&#xAD;cus on seed&#xAD;ing and sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity groups through &lt;a href=&quot;https://pathfinder.kairos-project.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, then took over &lt;a href=&quot;https://sparai.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SPAR&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the largest re&#xAD;search train&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;gram in the ecosys&#xAD;tem. Since then, we’ve launched the &lt;a href=&quot;https://generatorresidency.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor Res&#xAD;i&#xAD;dency&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;,&lt;/strong&gt; a pro&#xAD;gram sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist tal&#xAD;ent, in part&#xAD;ner&#xAD;ship with Con&#xAD;stel&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion, and taken over the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.globalchallengesproject.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Global Challenges Pro&#xAD;ject (GCP)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, a se&#xAD;ries of work&#xAD;shops to ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;ate peo&#xAD;ple’s tran&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion into ca&#xAD;reers in AI safety and biose&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p data-internal-id=&quot;ftnt_ref1&quot;&gt;Through most of Kairos’s his&#xAD;tory, we’ve had a very small team: in Jan&#xAD;uary 2026 we were only three peo&#xAD;ple, and our high-level strat&#xAD;egy was fo&#xAD;cused on scal&#xAD;able tal&#xAD;ent in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture: that is, build&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;grams with low marginal cost per par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pant (such as SPAR and Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der). This strat&#xAD;egy suc&#xAD;ceeded and let us quickly grow our pro&#xAD;grams: Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der went from 15 or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers per semester to over 100, and SPAR has quin&#xAD;tu&#xAD;pled in size since we adopted it (we ex&#xAD;pect to ac&#xAD;cept well over 500 mentees this round). All this growth has hap&#xAD;pened in par&#xAD;allel to iter&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive im&#xAD;prove&#xAD;ments to these pro&#xAD;grams, rais&#xAD;ing our bar for ex&#xAD;e&#xAD;cu&#xAD;tional qual&#xAD;ity each round. In a re&#xAD;cent shal&#xAD;low ret&#xAD;ro&#xAD;spec&#xAD;tive, we were able to iden&#xAD;tify around 80 peo&#xAD;ple who got into full-time roles in core AI safety or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pa&#xAD;tion in our pro&#xAD;grams&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;yl9etbkt2q&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefyl9etbkt2q&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnyl9etbkt2q&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. For a very large frac&#xAD;tion of these peo&#xAD;ple, Kairos was the pri&#xAD;mary me&#xAD;di&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor of their jour&#xAD;ney into AI safety.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In Fe&#xAD;bru&#xAD;ary, we de&#xAD;cided to pivot our strat&#xAD;egy. A con&#xAD;fluence of fac&#xAD;tors, in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing up&#xAD;dates we made about tal&#xAD;ent bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;necks (see be&#xAD;low), more con&#xAD;fi&#xAD;dence in our abil&#xAD;ity to de&#xAD;liver on am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious pro&#xAD;jects, and a higher availa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity of fund&#xAD;ing, led us to make a big push for both broad&#xAD;en&#xAD;ing our port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio of pro&#xAD;jects and sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially grow&#xAD;ing our team. We started ear&#xAD;lier this year by tak&#xAD;ing over the Global Challenges Pro&#xAD;ject work&#xAD;shop se&#xAD;ries and launch&#xAD;ing the Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor Res&#xAD;i&#xAD;dency, as we re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist tal&#xAD;ent was a grow&#xAD;ing bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;neck. We’ve now just en&#xAD;tered what we think will be an even more in&#xAD;tense pe&#xAD;riod of growth for Kairos, with sev&#xAD;eral new pro&#xAD;grams, pro&#xAD;jects, and teams.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1 data-internal-id=&quot;How_the_field_has_changed&quot;&gt;How the field has changed&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p&gt;In April, we made the case that &lt;a href=&quot;/posts/k3nq7FxBCsrNFmAYi/ai-safety-s-biggest-talent-gap-isn-t-researchers-it-s-2&quot;&gt;the biggest tal&#xAD;ent gap in AI safety had be&#xAD;come a lack of gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ists&lt;/a&gt;, rather than re&#xAD;searchers. The re&#xAD;search pipeline had ma&#xAD;tured enor&#xAD;mously, but our abil&#xAD;ity to iden&#xAD;tify, ac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vate, and up&#xAD;skill non-tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal tal&#xAD;ent was be&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing the bind&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;straint for fur&#xAD;ther growth of the field, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially for our abil&#xAD;ity to effec&#xAD;tively ab&#xAD;sorb large amounts of fund&#xAD;ing and drive a di&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity of pro&#xAD;jects for&#xAD;ward. Since then, we’ve seen a ma&#xAD;jor redi&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion of field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing efforts to&#xAD;wards this bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;neck: be&#xAD;yond Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor, MATS de&#xAD;cided to launch a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.matsprogram.org/tracks/founding-and-field-building?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Found&#xAD;ing and Field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing track&lt;/a&gt;, new pro&#xAD;grams such as &lt;a href=&quot;https://genstream.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Gen Stream&lt;/a&gt; were pi&#xAD;loted, and many more peo&#xAD;ple have started pivot&#xAD;ing from re&#xAD;search into gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Beyond our in&#xAD;creased fo&#xAD;cus on gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist tal&#xAD;ent, we’ve made a num&#xAD;ber of up&#xAD;dates over the last nine months which have come to&#xAD;gether to in&#xAD;form our new strat&#xAD;egy:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p data-internal-id=&quot;ftnt_ref3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;First, sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing early-ca&#xAD;reer tal&#xAD;ent is pay&#xAD;ing off a lot faster than we thought.&lt;/strong&gt; When we started Kairos, a big worry we had was that un&#xAD;der short timeline sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios, in&#xAD;vest&#xAD;ing in early-ca&#xAD;reer peo&#xAD;ple would largely fail to pay off in time. Back then, we es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mated that the time-to-im&#xAD;pact for the top tal&#xAD;ent we were sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing was around 1 to 3 years, and we con&#xAD;sid&#xAD;ered a ma&#xAD;jor redi&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion of our efforts as a re&#xAD;sult. Since then, differ&#xAD;ent lines of ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence have made us re&#xAD;assess this po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion, and we now be&#xAD;lieve that the most promis&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple go&#xAD;ing through our pro&#xAD;grams now see a time-to-im&#xAD;pact of around 5 to 9 months.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;vmml5g0miel&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefvmml5g0miel&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnvmml5g0miel&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; We think this is due to a num&#xAD;ber of fac&#xAD;tors, but pre&#xAD;dom&#xAD;i&#xAD;nantly it seems down&#xAD;stream of a much stronger per&#xAD;cep&#xAD;tion of ur&#xAD;gency in pivot&#xAD;ing to ob&#xAD;ject-level work.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;5l4itwiavjg&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref5l4itwiavjg&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn5l4itwiavjg&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; On net, this has made us sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly more ea&#xAD;ger to sup&#xAD;port early-ca&#xAD;reer tal&#xAD;ent, which is why we’re dou&#xAD;bling down on our efforts to sup&#xAD;port uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity groups.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Se&#xAD;cond, top-of-fun&#xAD;nel in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est in AI safety has in&#xAD;creased sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially. &lt;/strong&gt;Kairos and other or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions have no&#xAD;ticed sharp upticks in the num&#xAD;ber of ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tions we get across our pro&#xAD;grams. SPAR re&#xAD;ceived 6,000 ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tions this round, up from 2,400 just six months ago. While a lot more ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tions now seem to be of lower qual&#xAD;ity, the num&#xAD;ber of high qual&#xAD;ity ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tions over&#xAD;all has also in&#xAD;creased, if less rapidly, and a lot of peo&#xAD;ple cite re&#xAD;cent events such as Claude Mythos or the Hug&#xAD;ging Face in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dent as hav&#xAD;ing trig&#xAD;gered their in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est in AI safety. A lot more peo&#xAD;ple seem to just ‘get it’ when it comes to loss of con&#xAD;trol risks. This poses a new challenge: while Kairos has em&#xAD;pha&#xAD;sized scal&#xAD;a&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity for a long time, this new wave of in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est has forced us to be&#xAD;come bet&#xAD;ter at au&#xAD;tomat&#xAD;ing large swathes of our op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions and screen&#xAD;ing work. The num&#xAD;ber of highly qual&#xAD;ified ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cants has also meant we’ve had to rapidly in&#xAD;crease the ca&#xAD;dence of our events: be&#xAD;tween June and Novem&#xAD;ber we ex&#xAD;pect to have run a to&#xAD;tal of 6 in-per&#xAD;son work&#xAD;shops, each with ~30 peo&#xAD;ple.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All of this adds up to one meta-level bet: &lt;strong&gt;growth&lt;/strong&gt;. We’ve iden&#xAD;ti&#xAD;fied a num&#xAD;ber of highly lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;aged op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties to ad&#xAD;dress tal&#xAD;ent bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;necks by both scal&#xAD;ing up our ex&#xAD;ist&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;grams or by cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing new ones, and so we want to grow Kairos to meet the challenge. We were three peo&#xAD;ple in Jan&#xAD;uary, now we’re 12, and we’re aiming to be at 18 by the end of year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1 data-internal-id=&quot;Our_new_bets&quot;&gt;Our new bets&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p&gt;While Kairos con&#xAD;tinues to em&#xAD;pha&#xAD;size scal&#xAD;a&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ity and us&#xAD;ing our team’s ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity in a highly lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;aged way, we’ve re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized it is now the time for our core pro&#xAD;grams to have ded&#xAD;i&#xAD;cated pro&#xAD;ject teams. As such, we’re hiring both se&#xAD;nior and ju&#xAD;nior staff across all our pro&#xAD;grams, and plan to very sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly ramp up the re&#xAD;sources al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;cated to each of them. We’re also mak&#xAD;ing a big in&#xAD;vest&#xAD;ment in prepar&#xAD;ing our in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal sys&#xAD;tems to han&#xAD;dle a lot more vol&#xAD;ume and scale for our pro&#xAD;grams, form&#xAD;ing a proper Oper&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions team, and in&#xAD;vest&#xAD;ing in or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tional ma&#xAD;tu&#xAD;rity and gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;For SPAR, the key challenge is fur&#xAD;ther growth, paired with stronger sup&#xAD;port. &lt;/strong&gt;We be&#xAD;lieve the pro&#xAD;gram should con&#xAD;tinue to be run in a ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity-effi&#xAD;cient way, but we should stop op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;miz&#xAD;ing for keep&#xAD;ing vari&#xAD;able costs (such as com&#xAD;pute) low, and we should hire more staff. We re&#xAD;cently hired a new lead for the pro&#xAD;ject, and hope to sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially over&#xAD;haul the sup&#xAD;port in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture the pro&#xAD;gram pro&#xAD;vides to both men&#xAD;tors and mentees, hiring ded&#xAD;i&#xAD;cated re&#xAD;search man&#xAD;agers to sup&#xAD;port newer or less ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rienced men&#xAD;tors and im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing tar&#xAD;geted sup&#xAD;port and fol&#xAD;low-up for mentees.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We’re also now build&#xAD;ing a Groups team. &lt;/strong&gt;In the past the core value offer&#xAD;ing of Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der was rather sim&#xAD;ple: we’d provide fund&#xAD;ing to groups and pair them with other or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers to serve as men&#xAD;tors. We’re now look&#xAD;ing to fund re&#xAD;gional or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers serv&#xAD;ing a larger num&#xAD;ber of groups, scale up our efforts to seed new groups at top uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;si&#xAD;ties, set up res&#xAD;i&#xAD;dences for or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers to learn from and sup&#xAD;port other groups, and sup&#xAD;port more stu&#xAD;dent-run events. All of this will re&#xAD;quire new ded&#xAD;i&#xAD;cated staff, and so we’ve just launched these roles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing our strate&#xAD;gic up&#xAD;dates from above, we’ve de&#xAD;cided to make a num&#xAD;ber of bets in newer di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tions:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;An ex&#xAD;panded work&#xAD;shops port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio. &lt;/strong&gt;In tak&#xAD;ing over GCP we re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized that short, in-per&#xAD;son work&#xAD;shops are among the most effec&#xAD;tive tal&#xAD;ent in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tions in the ecosys&#xAD;tem. In par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar, they seem to be the best in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tion we know for get&#xAD;ting peo&#xAD;ple who have been pre&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ously in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duced into AI safety to fi&#xAD;nally make the pivot into full-time work. Be&#xAD;cause of this, we’ve de&#xAD;cided to build a proper Work&#xAD;shops team that will run a broader di&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity of work&#xAD;shop for&#xAD;mats aimed at differ&#xAD;ent au&#xAD;di&#xAD;ences: mid-ca&#xAD;reer peo&#xAD;ple, peo&#xAD;ple in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in biose&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity, and nar&#xAD;rower or more niche au&#xAD;di&#xAD;ences.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Ta&#xAD;lent Oper&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions func&#xAD;tion. &lt;/strong&gt;Our abil&#xAD;ity for our pro&#xAD;grams to have an im&#xAD;pact is, to a large de&#xAD;gree, only as good as our abil&#xAD;ity to let oth&#xAD;ers know about who the most promis&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple go&#xAD;ing through our pro&#xAD;grams are. This isn’t ex&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sive to Kairos: we’ve re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized that at pre&#xAD;sent, many field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing orgs don’t have great in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion chan&#xAD;nels for shar&#xAD;ing leads about promis&#xAD;ing peo&#xAD;ple they’ve iden&#xAD;ti&#xAD;fied, trained or sup&#xAD;ported, and this has be&#xAD;come a ma&#xAD;jor bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;neck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As such, we’re start&#xAD;ing a Ta&#xAD;lent Oper&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions team, with the man&#xAD;date of im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing the way that Kairos and other or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions in the ecosys&#xAD;tem iden&#xAD;tify, screen, re&#xAD;fer and route tal&#xAD;ent through the field. Its first ma&#xAD;jor un&#xAD;der&#xAD;tak&#xAD;ing is build&#xAD;ing Ta&#xAD;lent Com&#xAD;mons, a con&#xAD;sent-first database for shar&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion about pro&#xAD;gram par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pants and job ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;cants. Ta&#xAD;lent Com&#xAD;mons is cur&#xAD;rently be&#xAD;ing pi&#xAD;loted with a num&#xAD;ber of key field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing orgs in the US, and we ex&#xAD;pect to shortly ex&#xAD;pand it to a much larger set of par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pat&#xAD;ing or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;zngp9kkz9z&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefzngp9kkz9z&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnzngp9kkz9z&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. Our goal is for this database to be&#xAD;come the de facto way that peo&#xAD;ple search for leads for roles they’re hiring for, or pro&#xAD;grams they’re run&#xAD;ning. We also want it to be&#xAD;come a plat&#xAD;form to build other use&#xAD;ful in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture, such as unified ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion sys&#xAD;tems for re&#xAD;search pro&#xAD;grams, or a sys&#xAD;tem to track the im&#xAD;pact of field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;grams. We hope this will help can&#xAD;di&#xAD;dates as well by in&#xAD;creas&#xAD;ing dis&#xAD;cov&#xAD;er&#xAD;abil&#xAD;ity and re&#xAD;duc&#xAD;ing the effort in&#xAD;volved in job search&#xAD;ing; can&#xAD;di&#xAD;dates will always be able to view all of the in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion on their pro&#xAD;files, con&#xAD;tribute to it if they’d like, or opt out of the sys&#xAD;tem at any time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kairos Labs and Spe&#xAD;cial Pro&#xAD;jects. &lt;/strong&gt;A big re&#xAD;al&#xAD;iza&#xAD;tion we’ve had is that while the field is bot&#xAD;tle&#xAD;necked on peo&#xAD;ple who can ex&#xAD;e&#xAD;cute new pro&#xAD;jects, we can mean&#xAD;ingfully lower the ac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;va&#xAD;tion en&#xAD;ergy these pro&#xAD;jects need by (a) mak&#xAD;ing it much, much eas&#xAD;ier to run new non&#xAD;profit pro&#xAD;jects in the ecosys&#xAD;tem, and (b) pro&#xAD;vid&#xAD;ing good sup&#xAD;port struc&#xAD;tures and strate&#xAD;gic in&#xAD;put to en&#xAD;able new, more tac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;jects to be spun up quickly. Given this, we’re ex&#xAD;cited to be launch&#xAD;ing Kairos Labs, a new broad-scope in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tor pro&#xAD;gram in&#xAD;tended to provide very hands-on sup&#xAD;port for new pro&#xAD;jects and or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions in the ecosys&#xAD;tem, start&#xAD;ing early 2027. While the ecosys&#xAD;tem cur&#xAD;rently has a di&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity of in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tors (such as Cat&#xAD;alyze, BlueDot’s, Hal&#xAD;cyon, and oth&#xAD;ers), we be&#xAD;lieve that there’s a very sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tial gap in sup&#xAD;port for non-tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;jects led by highly mis&#xAD;sion-al&#xAD;igned, high-con&#xAD;text founders. We’re hop&#xAD;ing to close that gap.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also now think that there is sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tial value in hav&#xAD;ing stand-by ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity for pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing small or medium-sized pro&#xAD;jects that re&#xAD;spond to more tac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal or short-lived op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties that arise, both for tal&#xAD;ent work and be&#xAD;yond. In the past, Kairos has fo&#xAD;cused on mak&#xAD;ing a small set of large, on&#xAD;go&#xAD;ing bets, rather than en&#xAD;gag&#xAD;ing in more ad-hoc work that re&#xAD;sponds to nar&#xAD;row win&#xAD;dows of op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nity for im&#xAD;pact or that fall out&#xAD;side the scope of ex&#xAD;ist&#xAD;ing Kairos pro&#xAD;jects. While run&#xAD;ning Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor, we’ve re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized that this was a mis&#xAD;take, and that a sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ing amount of time-bound op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties are worth pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing, even if they don’t have a clean home in other or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions in the ecosys&#xAD;tem. In re&#xAD;sponse, we’re start&#xAD;ing a new Spe&#xAD;cial Pro&#xAD;jects team to drive for&#xAD;ward these tac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;jects, with a broad man&#xAD;date of pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing high-im&#xAD;pact op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties that we find, and with a large ini&#xAD;tial bud&#xAD;get.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;All of these are bets. &lt;/strong&gt;A core value and strength of Kairos is ag&#xAD;ility: we know the world is chang&#xAD;ing fast around us, and we want to be quick on our feet to change our bets when the un&#xAD;der&#xAD;ly&#xAD;ing as&#xAD;sump&#xAD;tions break. Every em&#xAD;ployee of Kairos un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stands that our ul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mate mis&#xAD;sion is to help so&#xAD;ciety nav&#xAD;i&#xAD;gate trans&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tive AI, and that our strat&#xAD;egy is ever shift&#xAD;ing, as is the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If this sounds like some&#xAD;thing you’d be ex&#xAD;cited about be&#xAD;ing a part of…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1 data-internal-id=&quot;We_re_hiring__a_lot__&quot;&gt;We’re hiring (a lot!)&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p&gt;To make all of this hap&#xAD;pen, Kairos is &lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;open&#xAD;ing 8 new roles on our team&lt;/a&gt;, adding to the pre&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ous 2:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/head-of-kairos-labs?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Head of Kairos Labs&lt;/a&gt;: De&#xAD;sign, launch, and lead our in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;ba&#xAD;tor for new AI safety or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/head-of-generator?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Head of Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor&lt;/a&gt;: Take our in-per&#xAD;son res&#xAD;i&#xAD;dency for AI safety gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ists from a suc&#xAD;cess&#xAD;ful first co&#xAD;hort to an es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lished, more am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious pro&#xAD;gram.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/head-of-groups?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Head of Groups&lt;/a&gt;: Set the strat&#xAD;egy for how Kairos sup&#xAD;ports AI safety uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity groups, choose which new ini&#xAD;ti&#xAD;a&#xAD;tives we pur&#xAD;sue, and build the team be&#xAD;hind them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/generalist-groups?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist (Groups)&lt;/a&gt;: Work with group or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers wor&#xAD;ld&#xAD;wide, sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing them through the Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der Fel&#xAD;low&#xAD;ship, seed&#xAD;ing groups at new uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;si&#xAD;ties, and helping top or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ers move into full-time AI safety work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/gcp-program-manager?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;GCP Pro&#xAD;gram Man&#xAD;ager&lt;/a&gt;: Build and lead new work&#xAD;shop pro&#xAD;grams as GCP ex&#xAD;pands into a full port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio serv&#xAD;ing differ&#xAD;ent au&#xAD;di&#xAD;ences and ca&#xAD;reer stages.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/generalist-workshops?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist (Work&#xAD;shops)&lt;/a&gt;: Own the op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tional back&#xAD;bone of GCP’s res&#xAD;i&#xAD;den&#xAD;tial work&#xAD;shops, from out&#xAD;reach and venues to helping run them in per&#xAD;son.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/head-of-special-projects?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Head of Spe&#xAD;cial Pro&#xAD;jects&lt;/a&gt;: Lead the team work&#xAD;ing on start&#xAD;ing new tac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;jects within Kairos.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/generalist-special-projects?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist (Spe&#xAD;cial Pro&#xAD;jects)&lt;/a&gt;: Run a va&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ety of tac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;jects, in&#xAD;volv&#xAD;ing any&#xAD;thing from event or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ing to grant&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/head-of-talent-operations?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;Head of Ta&#xAD;lent Oper&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions&lt;/a&gt;: Build the tal&#xAD;ent op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions func&#xAD;tion that places early-ca&#xAD;reer tal&#xAD;ent in high-im&#xAD;pact AI safety roles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/careers/spar-research-manager-generalist?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;SPAR Re&#xAD;search Man&#xAD;ager /​ Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist&lt;/a&gt;: Sup&#xAD;port men&#xAD;tors and mentees in the largest AI safety re&#xAD;search fel&#xAD;low&#xAD;ship in the field.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;The se&#xAD;nior roles (Head of and Pro&#xAD;gram Man&#xAD;ager roles) have a base salary of $140K – $195K, go&#xAD;ing up to $270K for can&#xAD;di&#xAD;dates in the San Fran&#xAD;cisco Bay Area. Gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;al&#xAD;ist roles have a base salary of $105K – $145K, go&#xAD;ing up to $200K in the Bay Area. Hires based in other key hubs like Lon&#xAD;don, DC, Bos&#xAD;ton, and NYC will also re&#xAD;ceive above-base salaries; the post&#xAD;ings list the full ranges.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’re a re&#xAD;mote-first team with a cen&#xAD;ter of grav&#xAD;ity in the Bay Area, and we get to&#xAD;gether for all-team re&#xAD;treats three times a year. Peo&#xAD;ple get a lot of own&#xAD;er&#xAD;ship, we move quickly, and we try hard to place peo&#xAD;ple in roles where they can do work to their com&#xAD;par&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive ad&#xAD;van&#xAD;tage. All of us are here be&#xAD;cause we care deeply about the risks from ad&#xAD;vanced AI, and the cul&#xAD;ture al&#xAD;igns strongly with that mis&#xAD;sion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We think the next cou&#xAD;ple of years will be crit&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal for build&#xAD;ing the in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture the field will need. We’re enor&#xAD;mously grate&#xAD;ful to Coeffi&#xAD;cient Giv&#xAD;ing (and par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly the GCR Ca&#xAD;pac&#xAD;ity Build&#xAD;ing team and Asya Ber&#xAD;gal) for back&#xAD;ing us, push&#xAD;ing us to be am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious, and sub&#xAD;stan&#xAD;tially shap&#xAD;ing the strat&#xAD;egy un&#xAD;der&#xAD;ly&#xAD;ing our new plans. Alongside this an&#xAD;nounce&#xAD;ment, we’re launch&#xAD;ing &lt;a href=&quot;https://kairos-project.org/?utm_source=eaf-lw&amp;amp;utm_medium=forum&amp;amp;utm_campaign=kairos-raise&quot;&gt;a new brand and web&#xAD;site&lt;/a&gt;, with new brands for our in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;ual pro&#xAD;grams com&#xAD;ing over the next few weeks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol class=&quot;footnote-section footnotes&quot; data-footnote-section=&quot;&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;yl9etbkt2q&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnyl9etbkt2q&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;yl9etbkt2q&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefyl9etbkt2q&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt; This was a con&#xAD;ser&#xAD;va&#xAD;tive es&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mate de&#xAD;rived by look&#xAD;ing at all his&#xAD;tor&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal pro&#xAD;gram data, hav&#xAD;ing an agent do au&#xAD;to&#xAD;mated re&#xAD;search to iden&#xAD;tify peo&#xAD;ple now work&#xAD;ing at full-time AI safety roles, and then man&#xAD;u&#xAD;ally screen&#xAD;ing each of them to con&#xAD;firm ac&#xAD;cu&#xAD;racy and whether they’re in&#xAD;deed work&#xAD;ing at what we’d con&#xAD;sider to be a mis&#xAD;sion-al&#xAD;igned or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion in AI safety or policy (which is a rel&#xAD;a&#xAD;tively high bar). While it’s harder to be sure of the coun&#xAD;ter&#xAD;fac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;al&#xAD;ity of these ca&#xAD;reer con&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sions, we use a num&#xAD;ber of meth&#xAD;ods to nar&#xAD;row our un&#xAD;cer&#xAD;tainty about this vari&#xAD;able when eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing pro&#xAD;gram out&#xAD;comes. Our top-of-the-fun&#xAD;nel fo&#xAD;cus, the fact that many of these peo&#xAD;ple had in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;acted only with Kairos pro&#xAD;grams in their AIS jour&#xAD;ney, and our pre/​post sur&#xAD;veys for pro&#xAD;grams lead us to be&#xAD;lieve a large frac&#xAD;tion of these out&#xAD;comes are pre&#xAD;dom&#xAD;i&#xAD;nantly at&#xAD;tributable to Kairos’s efforts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;vmml5g0miel&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnvmml5g0miel&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;vmml5g0miel&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefvmml5g0miel&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt; It’s hard to be pre&#xAD;cise here about the spe&#xAD;cific sub&#xAD;set we’re refer&#xAD;ring to, but ba&#xAD;si&#xAD;cally we as&#xAD;sume heavy-tailed re&#xAD;turns to tal&#xAD;ent, and so we typ&#xAD;i&#xAD;cally fo&#xAD;cus on peo&#xAD;ple we’ve iden&#xAD;ti&#xAD;fied to be among the most promis&#xAD;ing across our pro&#xAD;grams (for SPAR, this might be top 10th per&#xAD;centile of peo&#xAD;ple; for Path&#xAD;fin&#xAD;der, it might be the top 30th). When look&#xAD;ing at this sub&#xAD;set of peo&#xAD;ple and their re&#xAD;cent be&#xAD;havi&#xAD;our, we’ve no&#xAD;ticed a large num&#xAD;ber of peo&#xAD;ple con&#xAD;vert&#xAD;ing un&#xAD;usu&#xAD;ally fast com&#xAD;pared to when we started do&#xAD;ing field&#xAD;build&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;5l4itwiavjg&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn5l4itwiavjg&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;5l4itwiavjg&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref5l4itwiavjg&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt; This cashes out as a lot more peo&#xAD;ple mak&#xAD;ing highly risky lat&#xAD;eral moves into AI safety, such as drop&#xAD;ping out of uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sity to pur&#xAD;sue di&#xAD;rect work, or leav&#xAD;ing well-paid jobs in differ&#xAD;ent in&#xAD;dus&#xAD;tries to do ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;ated up&#xAD;skil&#xAD;ling. Peo&#xAD;ple have also been a lot more in&#xAD;volved in poli&#xAD;tics, e.g. go&#xAD;ing to can&#xAD;vass for can&#xAD;di&#xAD;dates who care about AI safety.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;zngp9kkz9z&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnzngp9kkz9z&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;zngp9kkz9z&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefzngp9kkz9z&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt; If your or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion is in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ci&#xAD;pat&#xAD;ing, please reach out to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mailto:contact@talentcommons.org&quot;&gt;con&#xAD;tact@tal&#xAD;ent&#xAD;com&#xAD;mons.org&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
            <author>Agust&#xED;n Covarrubias 🔸</author>
            <guid>6ucKLAbrnbESYguyL</guid>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>An AI Safety Career Switch Postmortem by AlexChalk</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/45L9wqZuquANFci22/an-ai-safety-career-switch-postmortem</link>
            <description>&lt;h2&gt;Introduction&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I worked as a dev, when&#xAD;ever some soft&#xAD;ware sys&#xAD;tem blew up we’d do a short pre&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tion and dis&#xAD;cus&#xAD;sion of what went wrong and how to im&#xAD;prove. This was a good sys&#xAD;tem, and I’ve de&#xAD;cided to ap&#xAD;ply it to my re&#xAD;cent at&#xAD;tempted ca&#xAD;reer switch (un&#xAD;suc&#xAD;cess&#xAD;ful, alas). I am not try&#xAD;ing to con&#xAD;vince any&#xAD;one of what do to (or not)—if you’re look&#xAD;ing for AI ca&#xAD;reer switch ad&#xAD;vice, try and find a good sur&#xAD;vey of folks who’ve at&#xAD;tempted it and base your de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion on a mean&#xAD;ingful sam&#xAD;ple size. The main rea&#xAD;son for shar&#xAD;ing this pub&#xAD;li&#xAD;cally is, as in the soft&#xAD;ware sys&#xAD;tem failure sce&#xAD;nario, to en&#xAD;courage in&#xAD;put on what went wrong and on how to do bet&#xAD;ter mov&#xAD;ing for&#xAD;wards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Background&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I stud&#xAD;ied Philos&#xAD;o&#xAD;phy at Oxford, grad&#xAD;u&#xAD;ated with First Class Honours in 2014, and af&#xAD;ter a few years of try&#xAD;ing var&#xAD;i&#xAD;ous things and some 80K ca&#xAD;reer coach&#xAD;ing, I landed in soft&#xAD;ware de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment in 2017. I did this full-time for about five years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was first prop&#xAD;erly spooked by AI when GPT-2 re&#xAD;leased in 2019. I wasn’t ter&#xAD;rible at Math, but I’d dropped it as soon as I was al&#xAD;lowed to at school, and I started try&#xAD;ing to re&#xAD;verse this de&#xAD;ci&#xAD;sion. I taught my&#xAD;self stats and calcu&#xAD;lus on a very part-time ba&#xAD;sis while work&#xAD;ing (if you want to do this, I highly recom&#xAD;mend &lt;a href=&quot;https://ocw.mit.edu/&quot;&gt;MIT OpenCourseWare&lt;/a&gt;). I was in Mon&#xAD;treal, so I made friends with a few folks at Mila and went to some events.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By early 2023 I was ex&#xAD;tremely burnt out from cod&#xAD;ing and ex&#xAD;tremely fed up with feel&#xAD;ing hel&#xAD;pless w.r.t. AI. I had always been much stronger in hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;i&#xAD;ties-re&#xAD;lated fields any&#xAD;way, and I figured most of the peo&#xAD;ple in that space prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly didn’t know what back&#xAD;prop&#xAD;a&#xAD;ga&#xAD;tion was. I had also formed the im&#xAD;pres&#xAD;sion that ML re&#xAD;searchers and poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers were fre&#xAD;quently talk&#xAD;ing past each other with&#xAD;out re&#xAD;al&#xAD;iz&#xAD;ing it. Im&#xAD;prov&#xAD;ing this com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion seemed like a big, dumb win (fine, “im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful, ne&#xAD;glected, and tractable”), and I de&#xAD;cided to try and do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am based in Canada, and af&#xAD;ter ex&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sive LinkedIn snoop&#xAD;ing it seemed like a lot of the folks  do&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing policy work had been through a Master’s pro&#xAD;gram called &lt;a href=&quot;https://carleton.ca/npsia/about-npsia/&quot;&gt;NPSIA&lt;/a&gt;. I en&#xAD;rol&#xAD;led and man&#xAD;aged to get funded via a few schol&#xAD;ar&#xAD;ships, partly due to an AI-re&#xAD;lated re&#xAD;search pro&#xAD;posal. Fac&#xAD;ulty mem&#xAD;bers and poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers I met through the pro&#xAD;gram in&#xAD;deed did not know what back&#xAD;prop&#xAD;a&#xAD;ga&#xAD;tion was. Nei&#xAD;ther did stu&#xAD;dents—de&#xAD;spite not be&#xAD;ing par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly strong in Math, I was one of the strongest in my co&#xAD;hort on any&#xAD;thing quan&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tive, and I was asked to help teach statis&#xAD;tics in my sec&#xAD;ond year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was ex&#xAD;tremely nice to feel good at some&#xAD;thing again—as a de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;oper I’d felt ad&#xAD;e&#xAD;quate but not much more. I learnt some in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing stuff about de&#xAD;ter&#xAD;rence and col&#xAD;lec&#xAD;tive ac&#xAD;tion the&#xAD;ory, and I con&#xAD;sumed a vast amount of AI policy liter&#xAD;a&#xAD;ture. I even&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally wrote a the&#xAD;sis called “AI Cri&#xAD;sis Prepa&#xAD;ra&#xAD;tion for States,” which I don’t think was very good, but I was at least pleased with a few sec&#xAD;tions (which are available on my &lt;a href=&quot;https://alexchalk.net/&quot;&gt;per&#xAD;sonal site&lt;/a&gt;). Be&#xAD;cause no&#xAD;body in the NPSIA fac&#xAD;ulty was AI-liter&#xAD;ate, my su&#xAD;per&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sor in&#xAD;sisted I find some&#xAD;one ex&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal to help him as&#xAD;sess my work. I found Ben Buck&#xAD;nall through Mila, who was since a Chap&#xAD;ter Lead on the 2026 In&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional AI Safety Re&#xAD;port (IAISR). While com&#xAD;plet&#xAD;ing my Master’s, I worked through &lt;a href=&quot;https://course.fast.ai/&quot;&gt;Fast AI’s cur&#xAD;ricu&#xAD;lum&lt;/a&gt; to en&#xAD;sure my tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal fun&#xAD;da&#xAD;men&#xAD;tals were solid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also talked the ear off any&#xAD;one in gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment who would listen to me about AI—NPSIA was ex&#xAD;tremely well-con&#xAD;nected and I met quite a few pub&#xAD;lic ser&#xAD;vants. In par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar, I talked pretty ex&#xAD;ten&#xAD;sively with an As&#xAD;so&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ate Deputy Minister (high-rank&#xAD;ing pub&#xAD;lic ser&#xAD;vant) at &lt;a href=&quot;https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/ised/en&quot;&gt;ISED&lt;/a&gt; who was look&#xAD;ing for safety-re&#xAD;lated re&#xAD;search. Since I had just read a lot of this, I wrote him sum&#xAD;maries of it by email ev&#xAD;ery cou&#xAD;ple of weeks—adapted ver&#xAD;sions of these are also available on my per&#xAD;sonal site. I got a good gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment sum&#xAD;mer in&#xAD;tern&#xAD;ship to round off my Master’s pro&#xAD;gram, and I grad&#xAD;u&#xAD;ated last Oc&#xAD;to&#xAD;ber.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After this, I ap&#xAD;plied to ev&#xAD;ery gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment job that sounded re&#xAD;lated to tech policy—I even had ac&#xAD;cess to in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal list&#xAD;ings due to my sum&#xAD;mer place&#xAD;ment. I also looked up ev&#xAD;ery sin&#xAD;gle com&#xAD;pany af&#xAD;fili&#xAD;ated with the IAISR, and I ap&#xAD;plied wher&#xAD;ever had job post&#xAD;ings. Un&#xAD;for&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nately, this is where the good vibes end, be&#xAD;cause I didn’t get a sin&#xAD;gle in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;view. The clos&#xAD;est I got was en&#xAD;courage&#xAD;ment from some IAISR au&#xAD;thors on LinkedIn and a sug&#xAD;ges&#xAD;tion from SaferAI that I ap&#xAD;ply to a re&#xAD;lated po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion (which I did, also un&#xAD;suc&#xAD;cess&#xAD;fully).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s now been a year since the end of my gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment place&#xAD;ment. If I’d got&#xAD;ten any&#xAD;where with a sin&#xAD;gle ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion pro&#xAD;cess, things would likely be differ&#xAD;ent, but I’ve strug&#xAD;gled to stay mo&#xAD;ti&#xAD;vated to read new policy-rele&#xAD;vant liter&#xAD;a&#xAD;ture, and I’ve fallen be&#xAD;hind. Also, a year is a long time to put your life on hold, and I’ve reached a per&#xAD;sonal break&#xAD;ing point with it. Even if per&#xAD;sist&#xAD;ing is a good idea, I don’t think I have the en&#xAD;ergy to do so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Some thoughts on what went wrong&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just didn’t find that many jobs. Per&#xAD;haps this should have been less sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ing to me—I am in Canada which is not ex&#xAD;actly San Fran&#xAD;sisco, and even be&#xAD;fore Trump’s re-elec&#xAD;tion, I could have ex&#xAD;pected pub&#xAD;lic spend&#xAD;ing cuts around when I grad&#xAD;u&#xAD;ated due to a likely in&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing Con&#xAD;ser&#xAD;va&#xAD;tive gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment. But I saw a clear need, and I as&#xAD;sumed there’d be po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tions, if not in some slow-mov&#xAD;ing gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment de&#xAD;part&#xAD;ment then at least in think tanks. With hind&#xAD;sight, this looks like a pretty em&#xAD;bar&#xAD;rass&#xAD;ing as&#xAD;sump&#xAD;tion to have made.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have very lit&#xAD;tle hard policy ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience. The job SaferAI sug&#xAD;gested I ap&#xAD;ply to had this ques&#xAD;tion in its ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion: “What is the most im&#xAD;pact&#xAD;ful area of AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance that you have worked on?” I didn’t have a good an&#xAD;swer. I think I have a lot of rele&#xAD;vant ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience, but I can cer&#xAD;tainly see how “has ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally worked in AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance” or even just “has worked in gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment” is a safer bet than me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My ap&#xAD;prox&#xAD;i&#xAD;mate the&#xAD;ory of change was “help ML re&#xAD;searchers and poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers not to talk past each other.” I should prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly have thought more care&#xAD;fully about how hard it might be to con&#xAD;vince ML re&#xAD;searchers and/​or poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers that they were do&#xAD;ing this, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially since it seems a clear pre&#xAD;req&#xAD;ui&#xAD;site to me get&#xAD;ting hired. I had plans for how to do this in an in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;view situ&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion, by draw&#xAD;ing on con&#xAD;crete ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples from gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment re&#xAD;ports and hear&#xAD;ings. But I needed a bet&#xAD;ter plan for how to ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally get into the in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;view.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All that said, when&#xAD;ever I’ve talked to some&#xAD;one who I think should know, whether a PhD stu&#xAD;dent at Mila or a gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment offi&#xAD;cial, they’ve ba&#xAD;si&#xAD;cally said “wow, you sound su&#xAD;per-qual&#xAD;ified.” In spite of the above points, I still re&#xAD;ally strug&#xAD;gle to square this feed&#xAD;back with my ab&#xAD;ject job ap&#xAD;pli&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion perfor&#xAD;mance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Some things I still stand by&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In&#xAD;ter&#xAD;dis&#xAD;ci&#xAD;plinar&#xAD;ity is valuable. I think most peo&#xAD;ple stick to the fields they’re best at, and hav&#xAD;ing spent 5 years not do&#xAD;ing that, I can see why. Not do&#xAD;ing that is &lt;em&gt;hard&lt;/em&gt;. You are sur&#xAD;rounded by peo&#xAD;ple with differ&#xAD;ent train&#xAD;ing and differ&#xAD;ent baseline as&#xAD;sump&#xAD;tions to you who con&#xAD;stantly mi&#xAD;s&#xAD;un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand you. Your boss’s idea of a sen&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble ca&#xAD;reer tra&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tory for you makes no sense, be&#xAD;cause your start&#xAD;ing skil&#xAD;lset is com&#xAD;pletely differ&#xAD;ent to the one they’re used to all their other em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees hav&#xAD;ing. Your weak&#xAD;nesses are con&#xAD;stantly mag&#xAD;nified and your strengths are con&#xAD;stantly un&#xAD;der&#xAD;val&#xAD;ued. And ul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mately, you’re just worse than you have been and could be some&#xAD;where else rel&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive to ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;one around you. But the flip&#xAD;side of all this if you do it any&#xAD;way, you’ll be one of the few peo&#xAD;ple bring&#xAD;ing your par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;lar skil&#xAD;lset and back&#xAD;ground into that space. This seems like a pretty good way to find ne&#xAD;glected op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML re&#xAD;searchers do not un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers, and poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers do not un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand ML re&#xAD;searchers. For&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nately we have a tried and tested solu&#xAD;tion for groups of peo&#xAD;ple who do not un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand each other: trans&#xAD;la&#xAD;tors. Trans&#xAD;la&#xAD;tors typ&#xAD;i&#xAD;cally trans&#xAD;late from a lan&#xAD;guage they know well, but which is not their mother tongue, into the lan&#xAD;guage that is their mother tongue. This pat&#xAD;tern can be eas&#xAD;ily ap&#xAD;plied to AI policy. When&#xAD;ever a re&#xAD;searcher talks to gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment, they should bring at least one other re&#xAD;searcher who’s spent mean&#xAD;ingful time en&#xAD;gag&#xAD;ing with gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment policy, and who can help them see what poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers care about. When&#xAD;ever a pub&#xAD;lic offi&#xAD;cial talks to a re&#xAD;searcher, they should bring at least one policy an&#xAD;a&#xAD;lyst who’s spent mean&#xAD;ingful time en&#xAD;gag&#xAD;ing with tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal ML re&#xAD;search and will un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand what the re&#xAD;searcher is try&#xAD;ing to com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cate. If ei&#xAD;ther the re&#xAD;searcher or the pub&#xAD;lic offi&#xAD;cial does not work with some&#xAD;one who matches this de&#xAD;scrip&#xAD;tion, they should hire some&#xAD;one who does.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Con&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing thoughts&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a per&#xAD;sonal level, I don’t think I will re&#xAD;gret do&#xAD;ing this (al&#xAD;though it’s cer&#xAD;tainly pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble I change my mind). I had for&#xAD;got&#xAD;ten what it was like to feel good at some&#xAD;thing, and I’m grate&#xAD;ful that this pro&#xAD;cess re&#xAD;minded me. The best way to feel bet&#xAD;ter about an up&#xAD;set&#xAD;ting situ&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion is to try and change it, which I did. And for some folks to help with AI, it makes sense that a lot of peo&#xAD;ple need to try and fail. Thank you to ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;one read&#xAD;ing this who is try&#xAD;ing to help.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>AlexChalk</author>
            <guid>45L9wqZuquANFci22</guid>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>CMIP7 emissions scenarios out for IPCC AR7 by MatthewDahlhausen</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/cmip7-emissions-scenarios-out-for-ipcc-ar7</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;The new CMIP7 emis&#xAD;sions sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios are out for the IPCC’s sev&#xAD;enth as&#xAD;sess&#xAD;ment re&#xAD;port (AR7). See the Car&#xAD;bonBrief ex&#xAD;plainer for a full break&#xAD;down.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Notable changes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The high&#xAD;est 8.5 sce&#xAD;nario was dropped and the now “high” sce&#xAD;nario has much less warming&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Much of this is be&#xAD;cause of cli&#xAD;mate policy and low cost tech; high coal use for elec&#xAD;tric&#xAD;ity is no longer plau&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble given the low cost of re&#xAD;new&#xAD;ables and batteries&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;No baseline sce&#xAD;nario; in&#xAD;stead they show less/​cur&#xAD;rent/​more cli&#xAD;mate policy, with a medium sce&#xAD;nario with cur&#xAD;rent policy at around 2.9&#xB0;C of warming&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios still de&#xAD;pend on a lot of car&#xAD;bon-diox&#xAD;ide re&#xAD;moval that hasn’t scaled yet&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;The low&#xAD;est (1.5&#xB0;C) and high&#xAD;est (4&#xB0;C+) sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios are less fea&#xAD;si&#xAD;ble. That’s mixed news—less chance of the worst case sce&#xAD;nar&#xAD;ios, but also means we are more likely to still have dis&#xAD;rup&#xAD;tive ~2.5-3&#xB0;C warm&#xAD;ing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/moktcbbqdayjtamhfyxb&quot; srcset=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/bqiepdvnwrgogx7sdiq6 128w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/q7geyufwryk86blbjbby 208w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/fzteqpsfyhomyrtlswaj 288w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/g7sz8jjdizhkuqy3lsqz 368w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/m2frw2yxcj57p2p8pqgt 448w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/wuyn44l4k6vairqlnjq2 528w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/vcz5otvjgwhocudlfr3w 608w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/wlza3rntmsjwqnu8mqpj 688w, https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/zXhNuXJPMCvDRS8KB/vyef9ygay3qnlgillf6w 768w&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;</description>
            <author>MatthewDahlhausen</author>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Exploring Big Goal Projects by Andrew Youn</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/mvyzihv3bwbqaacPS/exploring-big-goal-projects</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;I am in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in ex&#xAD;plor&#xAD;ing the idea of Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects (aka goal-ori&#xAD;ented megapro&#xAD;jects). Sub&#xAD;stack &lt;a href=&quot;https://andrewyoun.substack.com/p/exploring-big-goal-projects&quot;&gt;cross&#xAD;post here&lt;/a&gt;, and text copied be&#xAD;low.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ex&#xAD;plor&#xAD;ing Big Goal Projects&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When it comes to so&#xAD;cial change pro&#xAD;jects and so&#xAD;cial change giv&#xAD;ing—I be&#xAD;lieve both donors and pro&#xAD;gram lead&#xAD;ers are think&#xAD;ing &lt;u&gt;WAY&lt;/u&gt; too small.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To&#xAD;day, a $10m pro&#xAD;gram that has some im&#xAD;pact for 1,000,000 peo&#xAD;ple would quickly be la&#xAD;beled as a bold so&#xAD;cial change pro&#xAD;ject. How&#xAD;ever, put an&#xAD;other way, $10m is about &lt;span class=&quot;frac&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;⁄&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of 1% of the av&#xAD;er&#xAD;age billion&#xAD;aire’s wealth, and 1,000,000 peo&#xAD;ple is about 1/​10th of 1% of the world’s $1-a-day ex&#xAD;treme poor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a world of as&#xAD;tound&#xAD;ing pri&#xAD;vate sec&#xAD;tor achieve&#xAD;ments, it is hard to imag&#xAD;ine a com&#xAD;pany be&#xAD;ing lauded as bold, for hav&#xAD;ing some im&#xAD;pact for 1/​10th of 1% of their ad&#xAD;dress&#xAD;able mar&#xAD;ket. In so&#xAD;cial change, we of&#xAD;ten have truly mediocre goals.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It doesn’t have to be this way. In a se&#xAD;ries of ar&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cles, I would like to make the case for “Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects” and cor&#xAD;re&#xAD;spond&#xAD;ingly, “Big Goal giv&#xAD;ing” (giv&#xAD;ing di&#xAD;rected to these pro&#xAD;jects). Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects aren’t merely big, they are also di&#xAD;rected at a well-defined goal. An ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple of a big goal pro&#xAD;ject I ad&#xAD;mire for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, is Coeffi&#xAD;cient Giv&#xAD;ing’s ini&#xAD;ti&#xAD;a&#xAD;tive to re&#xAD;duce the DALY bur&#xAD;den of lead con&#xAD;tam&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion in 50 coun&#xAD;tries—as op&#xAD;posed to a more tra&#xAD;di&#xAD;tional ap&#xAD;proach, which would find and sup&#xAD;port in&#xAD;di&#xAD;vi&#xAD;d&#xAD;ual lead con&#xAD;tam&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions to grow in&#xAD;cre&#xAD;men&#xAD;tally.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Big Goal giv&#xAD;ing is of in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est for very con&#xAD;crete and prac&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cal rea&#xAD;sons. If struc&#xAD;tured well, they can have higher cost-effec&#xAD;tive&#xAD;ness and lower risk per dol&#xAD;lar.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Big Goal pro&#xAD;ject has po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial to sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly in&#xAD;crease &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;effec&#xAD;tive&#xAD;ness per dol&#xAD;lar spent. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects cap&#xAD;ture economies of scale, they are big enough to move sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cant lev&#xAD;ers like gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment and pri&#xAD;vate sec&#xAD;tor, and of&#xAD;ten have long im&#xAD;pact tails that ex&#xAD;tend into the fu&#xAD;ture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Big Goal pro&#xAD;ject can hold sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cantly &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;less &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;risk per dol&#xAD;lar spent. &lt;/strong&gt;Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects build a di&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sified-yet-tar&#xAD;geted port&#xAD;fo&#xAD;lio of com&#xAD;ple&#xAD;men&#xAD;tary pro&#xAD;gram ac&#xAD;tivi&#xAD;ties, or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions, and ge&#xAD;ogra&#xAD;phies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;For donors and pro&#xAD;gram lead&#xAD;ers who wish to achieve max&#xAD;i&#xAD;mum im&#xAD;pact per dol&#xAD;lar, it is worth pay&#xAD;ing at&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tion to what as&#xAD;pects of a Big Goal pro&#xAD;ject have po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial to lead to in&#xAD;creased cost-effec&#xAD;tive&#xAD;ness and low&#xAD;ered risk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a se&#xAD;ries of ar&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cles, I aim to ex&#xAD;plore and hear cri&#xAD;tiques on:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Four his&#xAD;tor&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples of Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects, and what we can learn from them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Con&#xAD;tem&#xAD;po&#xAD;rary ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples of Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects, and what defin&#xAD;ing fea&#xAD;tures make them likely to have higher im&#xAD;pact per dol&#xAD;lar—at lower risk—com&#xAD;pared to pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing lo&#xAD;cal max&#xAD;ima.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;A very early the&#xAD;o&#xAD;ret&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal roadmap of 100 fu&#xAD;ture “Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects” that would be re&#xAD;quired to achieve mean&#xAD;ingful gains in global equity in our life&#xAD;times.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Iden&#xAD;ti&#xAD;fy&#xAD;ing psy&#xAD;cholog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal rea&#xAD;sons for why we some&#xAD;times turn off our brains when think&#xAD;ing about so&#xAD;cial change, and there&#xAD;fore think too small—and ideas for how we can just get over our&#xAD;selves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Big Goals can be realistic&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some&#xAD;times dis&#xAD;cus&#xAD;sion about Big Goals is rooted mostly in hype—but I be&#xAD;lieve my views are rooted in re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ism. I lived more than 10 years in ru&#xAD;ral East Africa, and helped to start and grow &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oneacrefund.org&quot;&gt;One Acre Fund&lt;/a&gt;, a 10,000 staff, $300m NGO that serves 6 mil&#xAD;lion fam&#xAD;i&#xAD;lies. Our Big Goal is to help fam&#xAD;i&#xAD;lies we serve gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ate $1B in new prof&#xAD;its and as&#xAD;sets for farm fam&#xAD;i&#xAD;lies in 2030. To de&#xAD;clare in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est, I have now also co-founded &lt;a href=&quot;http://prevailfund.org&quot;&gt;Pre&#xAD;vail&lt;/a&gt;, an or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion that de&#xAD;signs and launches Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects. In other words: as an in&#xAD;formed and ra&#xAD;tio&#xAD;nal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tor of time, I have de&#xAD;cided to spend all of my time at work only pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing Big Goals at both or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions, be&#xAD;cause that’s what the peo&#xAD;ple I serve de&#xAD;mand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I ac&#xAD;knowl&#xAD;edge that con&#xAD;ven&#xAD;tional wis&#xAD;dom in so&#xAD;cial change is that cost-effec&#xAD;tive&#xAD;ness &lt;i&gt;re&#xAD;duces &lt;/i&gt;af&#xAD;ter you have cherry-picked the strongest op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties in a given field of work. If you’re look&#xAD;ing at a spread&#xAD;sheet or aiming for a lo&#xAD;cal max&#xAD;ima, I can see why one might think that. How&#xAD;ever in the real world, I be&#xAD;lieve cost-effec&#xAD;tive&#xAD;ness can &lt;i&gt;im&#xAD;prove &lt;/i&gt;with scale. In fact, this is how the pri&#xAD;vate sec&#xAD;tor usu&#xAD;ally works—effi&#xAD;ciency (dra&#xAD;mat&#xAD;i&#xAD;cally) in&#xAD;creases with scale. Here are two ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples from my own ex&#xAD;pe&#xAD;rience and one from his&#xAD;tory:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;A typ&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal One Acre Fund small coun&#xAD;try op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion for ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple might gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ate only $2 in new farmer in&#xAD;come per donor dol&#xAD;lar—but of&#xAD;ten gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ates $6-$10 per donor dol&#xAD;lar, af&#xAD;ter it has got&#xAD;ten large enough.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;At Pre&#xAD;vail, our most cost-effec&#xAD;tive ed&#xAD;u&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion grants are go&#xAD;ing to or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions reach&#xAD;ing the &lt;i&gt;most &lt;/i&gt;schools. Pro&#xAD;grams only work&#xAD;ing in a few school dis&#xAD;tricts have lower im&#xAD;pact per dol&#xAD;lar, com&#xAD;pared to or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions reach&#xAD;ing their whole coun&#xAD;try. That’s why we’re sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ing each or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tion we work with, to think big&#xAD;ger.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the next ar&#xAD;ti&#xAD;cle, I will share four his&#xAD;tor&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples of big goal pro&#xAD;grams that gen&#xAD;er&#xAD;ated long-last&#xAD;ing im&#xAD;pacts. For ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple, An&#xAD;drew Carnegie gave more than a billion dol&#xAD;lars (in to&#xAD;day’s equiv&#xAD;a&#xAD;lent) to build more than 1,000 pub&#xAD;lic libraries. This big push has led to $14B+ in gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ment spend&#xAD;ing on pub&#xAD;lic libraries, &lt;i&gt;per year, &lt;/i&gt;in the US alone. Whether or not you’re a fan of libraries, Carnegie got strong value for his money, by pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing a big goal in a care&#xAD;ful way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Per&#xAD;haps the most com&#xAD;pel&#xAD;ling rea&#xAD;son for Big Goal pro&#xAD;jects: they are Big.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe you won’t end up be&#xAD;liev&#xAD;ing that well-struc&#xAD;tured big&#xAD;ger pro&#xAD;jects are more &lt;u&gt;effi&#xAD;cient&lt;/u&gt;. But even if so, the &lt;u&gt;to&#xAD;tal scale&lt;/u&gt; of so&#xAD;cial change still mat&#xAD;ters! I be&#xAD;lieve the mea&#xAD;sure of hu&#xAD;man&#xAD;ity’s worth is how we treat our least-for&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nate mem&#xAD;bers. It doesn’t speak very well of hu&#xAD;mans when &lt;i&gt;nearly a billion peo&#xAD;ple &lt;/i&gt;barely sub&#xAD;sist on less than $1 per day. &lt;i&gt;Hun&#xAD;dreds of mil&#xAD;lions&lt;/i&gt; of chil&#xAD;dren reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly skip meals, many die be&#xAD;fore their fifth birth&#xAD;day, and are forced to leave school be&#xAD;cause they can’t af&#xAD;ford even mea&#xAD;ger fees.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Th&#xAD;ese prob&#xAD;lems are mas&#xAD;sive—why shouldn’t we at&#xAD;tack these prob&#xAD;lems with our full cre&#xAD;ativity and am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tion? This suffer&#xAD;ing is en&#xAD;tirely need&#xAD;less: hu&#xAD;man so&#xAD;ciety has ex&#xAD;cess re&#xAD;sources that are likely hun&#xAD;dreds of times more than re&#xAD;quired to achieve com&#xAD;plete trans&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion. And we hu&#xAD;mans are clearly ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;ble of ac&#xAD;com&#xAD;plish&#xAD;ing as&#xAD;tound&#xAD;ing things, as the pri&#xAD;vate sec&#xAD;tor shows: to&#xAD;day, there will be 100,000 com&#xAD;mer&#xAD;cial flights in the air! Could it be that we are sim&#xAD;ply failing in our lack of col&#xAD;lec&#xAD;tive imag&#xAD;i&#xAD;na&#xAD;tion when it comes to so&#xAD;cial change?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let’s at&#xAD;tack so&#xAD;cial change prob&#xAD;lems with a lot more bold&#xAD;ness. Please join me on this shared learn&#xAD;ing jour&#xAD;ney—and I wel&#xAD;come your challenges and cri&#xAD;tiques.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Andrew Youn</author>
            <guid>mvyzihv3bwbqaacPS</guid>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 16:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>AI Safety in Japan has deeper problems than capital allocation by Ajay Agarwal</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/o8NZA7ETZaBxrtEkb/ai-safety-in-japan-has-deeper-problems-than-capital</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(Quick dis&#xAD;claimer—All views pre&#xAD;sented here are my per&#xAD;sonal opinion and don’t re&#xAD;flect that of my em&#xAD;ployer or en&#xAD;tities I work with. This post is meant as a healthy start&#xAD;ing point for in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent and in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;spec&#xAD;tive eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion of the state of AI safety and gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance progress within Mid&#xAD;dle Pow&#xAD;ers in Asia—with heavy bias to&#xAD;wards ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;in&#xAD;ing Ja&#xAD;pan’s po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;brief back&#xAD;ground and tl;dr&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I work as a Re&#xAD;search Eng&#xAD;ineer at a ma&#xAD;jor Tokyo AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance startup that is cur&#xAD;rently un&#xAD;der con&#xAD;tract with the Ja&#xAD;pan AISI and Cabi&#xAD;net Office to build an eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion en&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ron&#xAD;ment for fron&#xAD;tier AI mod&#xAD;els and es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lish a frame&#xAD;work for a safe eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion en&#xAD;vi&#xAD;ron&#xAD;ment for Mythos-like mod&#xAD;els in the fu&#xAD;ture. I con&#xAD;cur&#xAD;rently work in teach&#xAD;ing tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety cur&#xAD;ricu&#xAD;lum of ARENA to a co&#xAD;hort of 20+ stu&#xAD;dents in Tokyo (and now in Taipei &amp;amp; Hong Kong). I con&#xAD;duct in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent re&#xAD;search with a ma&#xAD;jor Tokyo AI safety lab (Shiba AI) and have also been a part of de&#xAD;cently com&#xAD;pet&#xAD;i&#xAD;tive and ma&#xAD;jor AI safety fel&#xAD;low&#xAD;ships. Even out&#xAD;side of Ja&#xAD;pan, I men&#xAD;tor stu&#xAD;dents via Al&#xAD;go&#xAD;v&#xAD;erse and en&#xAD;gage heav&#xAD;ily in field-build&#xAD;ing and com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity out&#xAD;reach for other field-build&#xAD;ing ini&#xAD;ti&#xAD;a&#xAD;tives out of Tokyo and In&#xAD;dia. I am a vol&#xAD;un&#xAD;teer for PauseAI, al&#xAD;ign with tenets of EA, and have finished al&#xAD;most ev&#xAD;ery BlueDot course. Over&#xAD;all, I am a ran&#xAD;dom sam&#xAD;ple that hap&#xAD;pens to (sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ingly) fit and sit in many clusters a re&#xAD;cent post in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/bZb2okCZpt3bJmhdY/case-for-funding-ai-safety-in-japan#fnrefcahsgoa22un&quot;&gt;LW&lt;/a&gt; talks about.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Up un&#xAD;til quite re&#xAD;cently, the biggest hur&#xAD;dle in en&#xAD;gag&#xAD;ing Asian mid&#xAD;dle pow&#xAD;ers to the risk of AGI and press&#xAD;ing them to take more ac&#xAD;tive stances in the face of se&#xAD;quen&#xAD;tial AI in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dents has been—aware&#xAD;ness, or rather lack of com&#xAD;mon, tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal con&#xAD;text. How&#xAD;ever, I’ve no&#xAD;ticed a new prob&#xAD;lem that most of Asian mid&#xAD;dle pow&#xAD;ers ad&#xAD;dressed first and made rapid progress there&#xAD;after. This ob&#xAD;ser&#xAD;va&#xAD;tion was a re&#xAD;sult of spend&#xAD;ing roughly 2 months work&#xAD;ing with peo&#xAD;ple in Ja&#xAD;pan AISI and Cabi&#xAD;net Office on fron&#xAD;tier model eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions, and more than 1 year talk&#xAD;ing to folks more ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;ble, and smarter than me in bet&#xAD;ter po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tions to lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;age pub&#xAD;lic policy for Asian Mid&#xAD;dle-Pow&#xAD;ers—the con&#xAD;cept of &lt;i&gt;field strat&#xAD;egy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The goal of my post is not to in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duce what field strat&#xAD;egy is, or what it means, since it is a fairly well-dis&#xAD;cussed topic to many LW read&#xAD;ers, but rather to em&#xAD;pha&#xAD;size how, cur&#xAD;rently, there is one ma&#xAD;jor na&#xAD;tion in Asia lack&#xAD;ing in tak&#xAD;ing it se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously—Ja&#xAD;pan&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;cs2znpz23xc&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefcs2znpz23xc&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fncs2znpz23xc&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ve been try&#xAD;ing to ad&#xAD;dress this field strat&#xAD;egy prob&#xAD;lem for a long time. Cur&#xAD;rently, my goal is to draft a ba&#xAD;sic field strat&#xAD;egy plan that fol&#xAD;lows the prin&#xAD;ci&#xAD;ples high&#xAD;lighted by &lt;a href=&quot;https://youtu.be/1OupfPioP-M&quot;&gt;At&#xAD;las Com&#xAD;put&#xAD;ing&lt;/a&gt; and MATS, and, con&#xAD;se&#xAD;quently, to meet with more peo&#xAD;ple at AIS Asia to un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand how to fix this prob&#xAD;lem for Ja&#xAD;pan. If you have any thoughts/​feed&#xAD;back, feel free to reach out to me—&lt;a href=&quot;http://mailto:adniajay@gmail.com&quot;&gt;ad&#xAD;ni&#xAD;a&#xAD;jay@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Why is AI safety field strat&#xAD;egy im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant for Asian Mid&#xAD;dle Pow&#xAD;ers ?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;The dis&#xAD;course on AI safety de&#xAD;bates and con&#xAD;cerns among those who deal with poli&#xAD;cy&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers within Asia (or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions like &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/company/safeaiph/&quot;&gt;Safe AI Philip&#xAD;pines&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.aisafety.sg/&quot;&gt;SASH&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://ai4ph.substack.com/about&quot;&gt;AI4PH&lt;/a&gt; etc.) has been that most gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ments, how&#xAD;ever re&#xAD;luc&#xAD;tant to act and take a non-par&#xAD;ti&#xAD;san stance on the US-China AI Arms race, agree on the fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;age of com&#xAD;pute is non-ex&#xAD;is&#xAD;tent. &lt;/strong&gt;Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore knows it. Viet&#xAD;nam knows it. So does In&#xAD;done&#xAD;sia, the Philip&#xAD;pines, In&#xAD;dia, South Korea, and pos&#xAD;si&#xAD;bly Ja&#xAD;pan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a re&#xAD;sult, most SEA coun&#xAD;tries have shifted their R&amp;amp;D efforts to AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion and ac&#xAD;cred&#xAD;i&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tion of de&#xAD;ployed AI mod&#xAD;els in places where de&#xAD;ployed do&#xAD;mains are well-reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;lated. Build good AI testers, ver&#xAD;ify their ac&#xAD;cu&#xAD;racy, and de&#xAD;ploy them in in&#xAD;dus&#xAD;tries where fron&#xAD;tier model adop&#xAD;tion is rapid. A very good ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple of this pivot is &lt;a href=&quot;https://aiverifyfoundation.sg/&quot;&gt;Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore’s AI Ver&#xAD;ify Foun&#xAD;da&#xAD;tion&lt;/a&gt;, a non-profit sub&#xAD;sidi&#xAD;ary of the In&#xAD;fo&#xAD;comm Me&#xAD;dia Devel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment Author&#xAD;ity (IMDA).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Multi-agent sys&#xAD;tems’ and Open-weight mod&#xAD;els’ risk ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities are catch&#xAD;ing up to fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els. &lt;/strong&gt;Or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions within the ASEAN coun&#xAD;tries are no longer wait&#xAD;ing for their coun&#xAD;tries to de&#xAD;velop and de&#xAD;ploy a weaker ver&#xAD;sion of a fron&#xAD;tier base model. They are rapidly adopt&#xAD;ing fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els in their work&#xAD;flows. The more adop&#xAD;tion in&#xAD;creases with&#xAD;out im&#xAD;me&#xAD;di&#xAD;ate un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand&#xAD;ing of risks and AI con&#xAD;trol tech&#xAD;niques for risk con&#xAD;tain&#xAD;ment, the more sus&#xAD;cep&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ble these or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions are to model failure modes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the ideal world, such or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions would limit their adop&#xAD;tion to a spe&#xAD;cific ver&#xAD;sion of a fron&#xAD;tier model in or&#xAD;der to ab&#xAD;sorb cer&#xAD;tain gains in work&#xAD;force pro&#xAD;duc&#xAD;tivity, giv&#xAD;ing time to their lo&#xAD;cal gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ments to build tools around con&#xAD;trol and risk con&#xAD;tain&#xAD;ment, but no. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.briefasia.com/en/article/southeast-asian-workers-embrace-ai-tools-faster-than-global-peers&quot;&gt;South&#xAD;east Asia’s AI adop&#xAD;tion curve is steep&#xAD;en&#xAD;ing&lt;/a&gt;, but the gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance frame&#xAD;work is barely match&#xAD;ing the pace !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious re&#xAD;search agen&#xAD;das in tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety are barely prag&#xAD;matic. &lt;/strong&gt;Un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand&#xAD;ing model in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nals and model be&#xAD;hav&#xAD;ior through toolk&#xAD;its of model foren&#xAD;sics is an am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious goal of tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety. But, in Google Deep&#xAD;Mind’s own ad&#xAD;mis&#xAD;sion, is barely prag&#xAD;matic. Most tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety tech&#xAD;niques don’t scale with cur&#xAD;rent mod&#xAD;els. Fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els are be&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;creas&#xAD;ingly closed-source. We are nowhere near to build&#xAD;ing a bare-bones the&#xAD;ory for model be&#xAD;hav&#xAD;ior (even for a smaller, open-weight model). Google Deep&#xAD;Mind’s pivot to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/StENzDcD3kpfGJssR/a-pragmatic-vision-for-interpretability&quot;&gt;prag&#xAD;matic vi&#xAD;sion for in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;pretabil&#xAD;ity&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.alignment.org/blog/algzoo-uninterpreted-models-with-fewer-than-1-500-parameters/&quot;&gt;ARC’s own work on Al&#xAD;goZoo&lt;/a&gt; are just some ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ples of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t im&#xAD;ply that the field of tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety re&#xAD;search is not rele&#xAD;vant. It is ex&#xAD;tremely im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant. At the same time, I do high&#xAD;light that the deriva&#xAD;tive el&#xAD;e&#xAD;ments of a good gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance frame&#xAD;work would come from re&#xAD;search progress in tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance and/​or AI con&#xAD;trol, and maybe less from tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety. Con&#xAD;cepts re&#xAD;gard&#xAD;ing what is in&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence-time ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion would mat&#xAD;ter more than sparse au&#xAD;toen&#xAD;coders or lin&#xAD;ear probes at the gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance level.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The com&#xAD;pound&#xAD;ing effects of brain drain. &lt;/strong&gt;Asian tal&#xAD;ent, es&#xAD;pe&#xAD;cially in crit&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal fields like AI, nu&#xAD;clear sci&#xAD;ences, bio&#xAD;sciences, etc., has always been vuln&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;ble to a mas&#xAD;sive brain drain prob&#xAD;lem. To some ex&#xAD;tent, Asian coun&#xAD;tries have man&#xAD;aged to reach an un&#xAD;healthy equil&#xAD;ibrium with this prob&#xAD;lem—by &lt;i&gt;ei&#xAD;ther in&#xAD;vest&#xAD;ing heav&#xAD;ily in R&amp;amp;D and cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;cen&#xAD;tives&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;just cre&#xAD;ate more tal&#xAD;ent&lt;/i&gt;. How&#xAD;ever, the prob&#xAD;lem with AI is unique, that is—in both fronts there is no Asian mid&#xAD;dle power that can out-com&#xAD;pete the salaries offered by US or China&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q5ombj5ish&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefq5ombj5ish&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnq5ombj5ish&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; for tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal staff /​ AI re&#xAD;search en&#xAD;g&#xAD;ineer /​ re&#xAD;search sci&#xAD;en&#xAD;tists /​ MTS etc. and in&#xAD;vest more than what US and China is already in&#xAD;vest&#xAD;ing R&amp;amp;D ini&#xAD;ti&#xAD;a&#xAD;tives to&#xAD;wards fron&#xAD;tier model de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment, safety, con&#xAD;trol and risk as&#xAD;sess&#xAD;ment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;The writ&#xAD;ing on the wall is clear. The chips to lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;age any bar&#xAD;gain or fa&#xAD;vor&#xAD;able treat&#xAD;ment for com&#xAD;pute, and/​or in&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence us&#xAD;age for Mythos-like mod&#xAD;els (or more re&#xAD;cent, similarly ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;ble fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els) to de&#xAD;velop enough safe&#xAD;guards for Asian or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions to be ro&#xAD;bust against model harm is diminish&#xAD;ing. The tal&#xAD;ent is mi&#xAD;grat&#xAD;ing to US for bet&#xAD;ter salaries. Tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI safety mega-agen&#xAD;das, once touted as the Hail Mary for model be&#xAD;hav&#xAD;ior are failing and ma&#xAD;jor re&#xAD;search or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions are switch&#xAD;ing ships from safety to gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance. The steps are his&#xAD;tor&#xAD;i&#xAD;cally the same, only the strat&#xAD;egy is need. &lt;i&gt;Trust, but ver&#xAD;ify.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;8zmo4iqk0yo&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref8zmo4iqk0yo&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn8zmo4iqk0yo&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Do Asian Mid&#xAD;dle-Pow&#xAD;ers take AI safety field-strat&#xAD;egy se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously ?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;To some ex&#xAD;tent, yes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since the last year it&#xAD;self, a lot has changed and a lot hasn’t. For sake of brevity, I will high&#xAD;light the three most ma&#xAD;jor changes within the Asian AI safety policy di&#xAD;as&#xAD;pora which I find most pivotal and come clos&#xAD;est to what I mean is &lt;i&gt;tak&#xAD;ing field strat&#xAD;egy se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore’s pivot to in&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence-ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion, open-weight mod&#xAD;els &amp;amp; SASH − &lt;/strong&gt;2026 was event&#xAD;ful for Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore. It hosted AAAI, and also an&#xAD;nounced and fol&#xAD;lowed-up on the re&#xAD;lease of its &lt;a href=&quot;https://aisafetypriorities.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore Con&#xAD;sen&#xAD;sus on&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;Global AI Safety Re&#xAD;search Pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;ties&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; doc&#xAD;u&#xAD;ment that high&#xAD;lighted the re&#xAD;search pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;ties for Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore and how they’ve changed since they were first re&#xAD;leased last year in April it&#xAD;self ! A strate&#xAD;gic, timely pivot. Not to men&#xAD;tion, ex&#xAD;pan&#xAD;sion of SASH from a lo&#xAD;cal hub to a global hub re&#xAD;cruit&#xAD;ing ex&#xAD;perts in AI agents, AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion and fron&#xAD;tier model eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion (in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est&#xAD;ing all do&#xAD;mains high&#xAD;lighted in Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore’s Con&#xAD;sen&#xAD;sus doc&#xAD;u&#xAD;ment). This was fol&#xAD;lowed by the de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.aisafety.sg/blog/field-notes-on-international-ai-verification-from-shanghai-seoul-and-sydney&quot;&gt;SASH’s pro&#xAD;to&#xAD;type on AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion&lt;/a&gt; (also shown be&#xAD;low), and the in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent au&#xAD;dit&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;port on &lt;a href=&quot;https://neoresearch.ai/research/deepseek-v4-pro-safety-evaluation/&quot;&gt;Deep&#xAD;Seek v4 Pro pub&#xAD;lished by Neo Re&#xAD;search&lt;/a&gt; (a pro&#xAD;ject in&#xAD;cu&#xAD;bated within SASH) to gain in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional at&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tion, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3356940/us-models-chinese-ai-learning-game-safety-tests-research-lab-says&quot;&gt;even get fea&#xAD;tured in Chi&#xAD;nese me&#xAD;dia&lt;/a&gt; !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Philip&#xAD;pines, SAIPH, AI4PH—&lt;/strong&gt;The amount of work done by in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent re&#xAD;searchers in Philip&#xAD;pines, both as a part of ei&#xAD;ther or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions (SAIPH and AI4PH), in the field of tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance is noth&#xAD;ing but a feat to mar&#xAD;vel out. To list a few&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;usp0xdntjfj&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefusp0xdntjfj&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnusp0xdntjfj&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt; -&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;SAIPH was offi&#xAD;cially in&#xAD;vited as a re&#xAD;source speaker in Philip&#xAD;pine House of Rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tives’ Tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal Work&#xAD;ing Group (TWG) on the AI Act last July 13, 2026. As part of this TWG, SAIPH pro&#xAD;posed es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lish&#xAD;ing an AI Re&#xAD;silience In&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tute to han&#xAD;dle tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal au&#xAD;dit&#xAD;ing and stan&#xAD;dards-set&#xAD;ting, and to redi&#xAD;rect the pro&#xAD;posed Philip&#xAD;pine AI Com&#xAD;mis&#xAD;sion to pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;tize AI diplo&#xAD;macy and in&#xAD;clude whistle&#xAD;blower pro&#xAD;tec&#xAD;tions for em&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ees of AI-de&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ing companies&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the past tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal work&#xAD;ing group de&#xAD;liber&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions for the AI Devel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment and Reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion Act, three SAIPH mem&#xAD;bers were ac&#xAD;knowl&#xAD;edged as do&#xAD;main ex&#xAD;perts and in&#xAD;vited as re&#xAD;source speak&#xAD;ers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://lenz.wiki/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lenz Dago&#xAD;hoy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, who rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sented &lt;a href=&quot;https://ai4ph.substack.com/about&quot;&gt;AI4PH&lt;/a&gt;, a lo&#xAD;cal policy ad&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sory group work&#xAD;ing on AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance, crit&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal in&#xAD;fras&#xAD;truc&#xAD;ture, and work&#xAD;force tran&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion re&#xAD;forms in the Philip&#xAD;pine AI econ&#xAD;omy, was one of the do&#xAD;main ex&#xAD;perts for the above work&#xAD;ing group&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/yanro-ferrer-151101234/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Yanro Fer&#xAD;rer&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;,&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;alum&#xAD;nus of their first AI Gover&#xAD;nance Ac&#xAD;cel&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tor,&lt;/strong&gt; through his work in the House of Rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tives as a Leg&#xAD;is&#xAD;la&#xAD;tive Re&#xAD;searcher, in&#xAD;tro&#xAD;duced the term “catas&#xAD;trophic risks of AI” for the first time in Con&#xAD;gres&#xAD;sional record in &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.congress.hrep.online/legisdocs/basic_20/HR00971.pdf&quot;&gt;HR 971&lt;/a&gt;, which sought to es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lish AI safety stan&#xAD;dards and mechanisms for risk as&#xAD;sess&#xAD;ment and over&#xAD;sight.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/v1787812164/lexical_client_uploads/hmtv36djruwaqlgr19jf.png&quot; alt=&quot;image.png&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;Rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tives from SAIPH at the AI Reg&#xAD;u&#xAD;la&#xAD;tion Act TWG Group De&#xAD;liber&#xAD;a&#xAD;tion&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/v1787812242/lexical_client_uploads/s77enlrmzowels0yvwef.png&quot; alt=&quot;image.png&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;SASH’s In&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ence Ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion Pro&#xAD;to&#xAD;type high&#xAD;lighted in WAIC2026&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;p&gt;The efforts of SASH in Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore and AI4PH and SAIPH in Philip&#xAD;pines are not one-sided. They are be&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;ceived pos&#xAD;i&#xAD;tively by their gov&#xAD;ern&#xAD;ments, and helping shape a more prag&#xAD;matic field strat&#xAD;egy for both the coun&#xAD;tries. I in&#xAD;vite the reader to read more about the work done by these or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions in de&#xAD;tail on the fol&#xAD;low&#xAD;ing links&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;5&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnref0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fn0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-reference&quot; data-footnote-reference=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;6&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;epesnbxckqu&quot; role=&quot;doc-noteref&quot; id=&quot;fnrefepesnbxckqu&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnepesnbxckqu&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;There&#xAD;fore, ev&#xAD;ery&#xAD;thing is good. But, where is Ja&#xAD;pan ?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nowhere close.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the un&#xAD;for&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nate part. To ad&#xAD;dress this, I would briefly men&#xAD;tion what I un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stood from the countless calls and in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tions with peo&#xAD;ple in this do&#xAD;main. &lt;i&gt;Field strat&#xAD;egy &lt;/i&gt;may not be the uni&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sal word that trans&#xAD;lates to each coun&#xAD;tries’ in&#xAD;tended goal, how&#xAD;ever their ac&#xAD;tions are con&#xAD;verg&#xAD;ing to&#xAD;wards the same—build a niche within R&amp;amp;D that uniquely ties in with the grow&#xAD;ing con&#xAD;cerns of rapid adop&#xAD;tion of fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els within their work&#xAD;force with&#xAD;out proper gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance frame&#xAD;work. Often and quite un&#xAD;sur&#xAD;pris&#xAD;ingly, these niches are de&#xAD;rived from ex&#xAD;ist&#xAD;ing prob&#xAD;lems in the field of tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance. So, what is es&#xAD;sen&#xAD;tially re&#xAD;quired for effec&#xAD;tive field strat&#xAD;egy (or at least what’s com&#xAD;mon within all of them) ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Read the writ&#xAD;ing on the wall. &lt;/strong&gt;The skill of learn&#xAD;ing the con&#xAD;text and then ob&#xAD;serv&#xAD;ing the sub-text in re&#xAD;search trends is very im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant for field strate&#xAD;giz&#xAD;ing. There is a rea&#xAD;son why MIRI went all gung-ho in tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance. There is a rea&#xAD;son why PauseAI vol&#xAD;un&#xAD;teers are protest&#xAD;ing against fron&#xAD;tier model com&#xAD;pa&#xAD;nies. There is a rea&#xAD;son why RAND’s as&#xAD;sess&#xAD;ment of China’s re&#xAD;sponse to fron&#xAD;tier model threats is pos&#xAD;i&#xAD;tive. The bipo&#xAD;lar pow&#xAD;ers are rec&#xAD;og&#xAD;niz&#xAD;ing the threat and act&#xAD;ing ac&#xAD;cord&#xAD;ingly in their self-in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est whilst try&#xAD;ing their best to pre&#xAD;vent power con&#xAD;ver&#xAD;gence in the op&#xAD;po&#xAD;site hand’s. We are get&#xAD;ting closer to AI2027 than to AI2040 Plan A, but that doesn’t mean Plan A is not far. If the Asian cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tals re&#xAD;main pas&#xAD;sive any longer, then they risk los&#xAD;ing any rele&#xAD;vance and hence, any lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;age to bar&#xAD;gain any po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion in their in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est in a world where the AI arms race is ap&#xAD;proach&#xAD;ing the endgame.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Strat&#xAD;egy is not just a doc&#xAD;u&#xAD;ment. &lt;/strong&gt;An effec&#xAD;tive &lt;i&gt;field strat&#xAD;egy needs in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion through con&#xAD;fer&#xAD;ences and must be defende&lt;/i&gt;d by R&amp;amp;D work. It is not enough to re&#xAD;lease a risk tax&#xAD;on&#xAD;omy on your web&#xAD;site mean&#xAD;while bu&#xAD;reau&#xAD;cratic red&#xAD;tapeism cuts through any mean&#xAD;ingful efforts to ad&#xAD;dress those risks. Tax&#xAD;onomies need to be dy&#xAD;namic and be up&#xAD;dated in re&#xAD;sponse to trends, not in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dents. Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore re&#xAD;al&#xAD;ized the trends of open-weight mod&#xAD;els and need to scale AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion re&#xAD;search. It acted ac&#xAD;cord&#xAD;ingly. So did Philip&#xAD;pines. To&#xAD;day, SASH’s AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion pro&#xAD;to&#xAD;type is mak&#xAD;ing rounds in WAIC 2026 and har&#xAD;ness&#xAD;ing in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est in the AI as&#xAD;surance com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;ties in Oxford. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/fimaquino/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fiel Aquino&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;strong&gt;Growth Direc&#xAD;tor &lt;/strong&gt;of SAIPH, joined &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.un.org/global-dialogue-ai-governance/en&quot;&gt;the inau&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ral UN Global Dialogue on AI Gover&#xAD;nance&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2026/en&quot;&gt;the World Sum&#xAD;mit on the In&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion So&#xAD;ciety Fo&#xAD;rum&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://aiforgood.itu.int/summit26/&quot;&gt;AI for Good Global Sum&#xAD;mit&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://partnershiponai.org/partner-forum-2026/&quot;&gt;Part&#xAD;ner&#xAD;ship on AI’s Part&#xAD;ner Fo&#xAD;rum&lt;/a&gt;, high&#xAD;light&#xAD;ing the con&#xAD;cerns of the Philip&#xAD;pines’ law&#xAD;mak&#xAD;ers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pivot, pivot, pivot. &lt;/strong&gt;Re-iter&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing my first point—a late pivot is still use&#xAD;ful than no pivot. The Global AI safety Pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;ties doc&#xAD;u&#xAD;ment came out only in April 2025. No sooner, Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore’s Minister for Digi&#xAD;tal Devel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment and In&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tion Josephine Teo says at the In&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional Scien&#xAD;tific Ex&#xAD;change on AI Safety -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;“We want de&#xAD;ploy&#xAD;ers to go for proper test&#xAD;ing, but they nat&#xAD;u&#xAD;rally ask the ques&#xAD;tion: who can I trust as a tester?”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore’s ac&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rate pivot to AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion is a tes&#xAD;ta&#xAD;ment of its abil&#xAD;ity to read re&#xAD;search trends care&#xAD;fully. Did it pay off ? Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore re&#xAD;leased its own con&#xAD;sen&#xAD;sus on the global pri&#xAD;ori&#xAD;ties in start of July 2026. Towards the end of the same month, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.edb.gov.sg/en/about-edb/media-releases-publications/far-ai-establishes-first-international-office-in-singapore.html&quot;&gt;FAR.AI es&#xAD;tab&#xAD;lishes first in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;na&#xAD;tional office in Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore&lt;/a&gt;. Causal or not, this was a ma&#xAD;jor win for Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;De&#xAD;bate your peers and ver&#xAD;ify your pri&#xAD;ors. &lt;/strong&gt;Coun&#xAD;tries with an AISI in Asia are slowly and steadily get&#xAD;ting a clar&#xAD;ity on their strat&#xAD;egy well-enough to en&#xAD;gage in pub&#xAD;lic de&#xAD;bates with their UK AISI and US CAISI peers. This is im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant and well-needed. A good strat&#xAD;egy is as good as it is com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cated. This ad&#xAD;dresses effec&#xAD;tively tal&#xAD;ent at&#xAD;trac&#xAD;tion prob&#xAD;lem. If tal&#xAD;ented peo&#xAD;ple in the field don’t know what are Ja&#xAD;pan’s con&#xAD;cerns and what Ja&#xAD;pan is work&#xAD;ing on cur&#xAD;rently, then they would never have the in&#xAD;cen&#xAD;tive to mi&#xAD;grate to Ja&#xAD;pan to help the coun&#xAD;try ad&#xAD;dress those con&#xAD;cerns—no mat&#xAD;ter the cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal and in&#xAD;cen&#xAD;tive. Salary is lu&#xAD;cra&#xAD;tive, cost of liv&#xAD;ing is also low—but is there a clear, in&#xAD;cen&#xAD;tivized ca&#xAD;reer tra&#xAD;jec&#xAD;tory for a tal&#xAD;ented RS/​RE for him/​her to leave their job and move to Ja&#xAD;pan ? No. AI ver&#xAD;ifi&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion is an am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious field, so Sin&#xAD;ga&#xAD;pore re&#xAD;tains at least some tal&#xAD;ent. Tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal AI gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance is an am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious field, so Philip&#xAD;pines re&#xAD;tain some tal&#xAD;ent. Are the prob&#xAD;lems that in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est Ja&#xAD;pan AISI or METI am&#xAD;bi&#xAD;tious ? Who knows—since there are no mem&#xAD;bers of Ja&#xAD;pan AISI in pan&#xAD;els of FAR.AI events or WAIC ? (&lt;i&gt;This is also the prior I urge the au&#xAD;thors of the LW post to figure out be&#xAD;fore their fund&#xAD;ing ask—what field strat&#xAD;egy are unique to Ja&#xAD;pan and it is most-well suited to ad&#xAD;dress ?)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;When the rep&#xAD;re&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tive from Korean AISI in the FAR.AI panel on &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LUFhxcQCx8&amp;amp;t=1187s&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Is Global AI safety con&#xAD;verg&#xAD;ing ?”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;men&#xAD;tions that -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“&lt;i&gt;Let me men&#xAD;tion a dis&#xAD;tinct part of our (Korean AISI) work. Korean Govt. is in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in in&#xAD;ves&#xAD;ti&#xAD;gat&#xAD;ing sovereign AI, in&#xAD;clud&#xAD;ing a na&#xAD;tional com&#xAD;pe&#xAD;ti&#xAD;tion pro&#xAD;gram where Korean teams de&#xAD;velop foun&#xAD;da&#xAD;tion mod&#xAD;els. We, the Korean AISI, eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;ate ev&#xAD;ery one of these mod&#xAD;els on perfor&#xAD;mance and safety—&lt;strong&gt;ev&#xAD;ery 6 months. I think very few safety in&#xAD;sti&#xAD;tutes in the world run con&#xAD;sec&#xAD;u&#xAD;tive eval&#xAD;u&#xAD;a&#xAD;tions on a fixed cy&#xAD;cle like this.&lt;/strong&gt; ”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This cre&#xAD;ates the high&#xAD;light—the lev&#xAD;er&#xAD;age to at&#xAD;tract tal&#xAD;ent, the abil&#xAD;ity to strate&#xAD;gize effec&#xAD;tively and to show&#xAD;case the coun&#xAD;try is still ac&#xAD;tively pur&#xAD;su&#xAD;ing dy&#xAD;namic gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance solu&#xAD;tion are rapid pace.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;i&gt;What are the les&#xAD;sons for Ja&#xAD;pan from this ?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ja&#xAD;pan must un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand that it already has a good start&#xAD;ing point. It is a coun&#xAD;try that has seen both the rise and fall of ma&#xAD;jor tech&#xAD;nolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal rev&#xAD;olu&#xAD;tions. It knows how to dis&#xAD;t&#xAD;in&#xAD;guish po&#xAD;ten&#xAD;tial from bloat. It also needs to un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand the time to take se&#xAD;vere cau&#xAD;tion is now over. The era for static, re&#xAD;ac&#xAD;tionary gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance that fol&#xAD;lows in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dents is over. Ja&#xAD;pan AISI, METI and Cabi&#xAD;net Office need to se&#xAD;ri&#xAD;ously ask them&#xAD;selves and con&#xAD;sider -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are they read&#xAD;ing the trends in re&#xAD;search progress and/​or let&#xAD;ting ex&#xAD;perts in the field guide them on map&#xAD;ping the state of the re&#xAD;search field ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are they in&#xAD;cen&#xAD;tiviz&#xAD;ing stag&#xAD;nancy by keep&#xAD;ing their re&#xAD;search agenda and/​or risk pro&#xAD;files ex&#xAD;tremely rigid ? Are their rigid pri&#xAD;ors based on ev&#xAD;i&#xAD;dence or ex&#xAD;ces&#xAD;sive cau&#xAD;tion ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are they fo&#xAD;cus&#xAD;ing on how their Asian peers are out&#xAD;com&#xAD;pet&#xAD;ing them, even in gov&#xAD;er&#xAD;nance frame&#xAD;works for model adop&#xAD;tion ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are they ready to de&#xAD;bate their peers in UK and US or are they will&#xAD;ing to con&#xAD;tinue to be at their diplo&#xAD;matic and tech&#xAD;nolog&#xAD;i&#xAD;cal be&#xAD;hest in fu&#xAD;ture as the US-China AI arms races reaches its fi&#xAD;nal few moves ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ja&#xAD;pan needs to build its ba&#xAD;sics fast. Learn the re&#xAD;quired con&#xAD;text to un&#xAD;der&#xAD;stand the terms effec&#xAD;tively. Most im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tantly, &lt;strong&gt;let the ex&#xAD;perts do their job and trans&#xAD;fer the tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal con&#xAD;text. &lt;/strong&gt;Learn from oth&#xAD;ers. Ra&#xAD;tion&#xAD;al&#xAD;ize what niche should they own and strate&#xAD;gize ac&#xAD;cord&#xAD;ingly. Col&#xAD;lab&#xAD;o&#xAD;rate with other in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dent re&#xAD;search or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions within Asia and abroad on broader, re&#xAD;search ques&#xAD;tions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Summary&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;If there is one thing I want the reader from this post is this—Re&#xAD;cently, many AI safety or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions in Asia have started to rec&#xAD;og&#xAD;nize that the prob&#xAD;lem of AI safety in Asia is a cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion prob&#xAD;lem. Even, the LW post ar&#xAD;gues for this in case of Ja&#xAD;pan. This is par&#xAD;tially true. In&#xAD;deed, it is a cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion prob&#xAD;lem—&lt;i&gt;but for coun&#xAD;tries that already have definite, clear field strat&#xAD;egy. &lt;/i&gt;For coun&#xAD;tries with&#xAD;out them, &lt;i&gt;cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion won’t change any&#xAD;thing at all ! Field strat&#xAD;egy comes first, cap&#xAD;i&#xAD;tal al&#xAD;lo&#xAD;ca&#xAD;tion fol&#xAD;lows later !&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am hope&#xAD;ful for Ja&#xAD;pan’s role in the broader Asian con&#xAD;text of AI safety. The Ja&#xAD;panese so&#xAD;ciety has both in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est and con&#xAD;cern re&#xAD;gard&#xAD;ing the events sur&#xAD;round&#xAD;ing the rapid adop&#xAD;tion of fron&#xAD;tier mod&#xAD;els and their in&#xAD;creas&#xAD;ing risk ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities. I wish to share the same hope with the reader and ask to have a look on the be&#xAD;low image—which is the front page of the ma&#xAD;jor news&#xAD;pa&#xAD;per a day af&#xAD;ter the OpenAI-Hug&#xAD;gingFace in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dent. This is new, bold and in&#xAD;for&#xAD;ma&#xAD;tive—to not just cover a rather tech&#xAD;ni&#xAD;cal and nu&#xAD;anced event, but also cite re&#xAD;sources like Plan A in con&#xAD;text of the in&#xAD;ci&#xAD;dent. This means—peo&#xAD;ple know their ba&#xAD;sics, and they know what they want. Does the Cabi&#xAD;net Office, METI, Ja&#xAD;pan AISI etc. know what they ac&#xAD;tu&#xAD;ally want ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/v1787810121/lexical_client_uploads/jisltdfpekdz6g7zxh0u.png&quot; alt=&quot;image.png&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;The front&#xAD;page of a ma&#xAD;jor Ja&#xAD;panese pub&#xAD;lic news&#xAD;pa&#xAD;per men&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ing—Plan D&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;figure&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imgonly&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/v1787810076/lexical_client_uploads/d5m0hbtil9pe1f6ejugd.png&quot; alt=&quot;image.png&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;figcaption&gt;The same news&#xAD;pa&#xAD;per men&#xAD;tion&#xAD;ing the pro&#xAD;gres&#xAD;sion of Plan A and Plan D from AI2040 draft.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;ol class=&quot;footnote-section footnotes&quot; data-footnote-section=&quot;&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;1&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;cs2znpz23xc&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fncs2znpz23xc&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;cs2znpz23xc&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefcs2znpz23xc&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since I am cur&#xAD;rently heav&#xAD;ily em&#xAD;bed&#xAD;ded in the Ja&#xAD;pan AI safety eco&#xAD;sphere, the post is bi&#xAD;ased to&#xAD;wards the ques&#xAD;tion of Ja&#xAD;pan. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t other Asian coun&#xAD;tries which do not have a similar is&#xAD;sue. One key ex&#xAD;am&#xAD;ple would be—In&#xAD;dia.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;2&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q5ombj5ish&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnq5ombj5ish&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;q5ombj5ish&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefq5ombj5ish&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am un&#xAD;aware of de&#xAD;tails for the me&#xAD;dian salary offered to Re&#xAD;search Eng&#xAD;ineer FTE or similar level po&#xAD;si&#xAD;tion in Chi&#xAD;nese deep-tech and/​or fron&#xAD;tier AI star&#xAD;tups. This as&#xAD;sump&#xAD;tion, re&#xAD;gard&#xAD;less, won’t change the con&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sion of the ar&#xAD;gu&#xAD;ment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;3&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;8zmo4iqk0yo&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn8zmo4iqk0yo&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;8zmo4iqk0yo&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref8zmo4iqk0yo&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The fa&#xAD;mous quote by Ron&#xAD;ald Rea&#xAD;gan ap&#xAD;plies very broadly to what the con&#xAD;text here is. Trust, but ver&#xAD;ify” (&lt;i&gt;Doveryai, no proveryai&lt;/i&gt;) is a tra&#xAD;di&#xAD;tional Rus&#xAD;sian proverb that means you should main&#xAD;tain good faith while in&#xAD;de&#xAD;pen&#xAD;dently con&#xAD;firm&#xAD;ing the facts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;4&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;usp0xdntjfj&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnusp0xdntjfj&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;usp0xdntjfj&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefusp0xdntjfj&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I im&#xAD;plore the reader to learn more about the fas&#xAD;ci&#xAD;nat&#xAD;ing work done by SAIPH within such a short pe&#xAD;riod of time on their &lt;a href=&quot;https://safeaiph.substack.com/p/who-is-doing-ai-safety-work-in-the&quot;&gt;Substack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;5&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fn0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnref0ifmv5iu1xrd&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://safeaiph.substack.com/&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​safeaiph.sub&#xAD;stack.com/​​&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;footnote-item&quot; data-footnote-item=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-index=&quot;6&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;epesnbxckqu&quot; role=&quot;doc-endnote&quot; id=&quot;fnepesnbxckqu&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote-back-link&quot; data-footnote-back-link=&quot;&quot; data-footnote-id=&quot;epesnbxckqu&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#fnrefepesnbxckqu&quot;&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnote-content&quot; data-footnote-content=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.aisafety.sg/blog&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​www.aisafety.sg/​​blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
            <author>Ajay Agarwal</author>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Apollo Research is hiring across Watcher product engineering, security &amp; control research, and internal security team. by Joping </title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/GM9uJTsHiieeQCdpr/apollo-research-is-hiring-across-watcher-product-engineering</link>
            <description>&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Watcher Product&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’re grow&#xAD;ing the Watcher team. Watcher is now de&#xAD;ployed across many or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions and we’re see&#xAD;ing a lot of trac&#xAD;tion and in&#xAD;bound in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;est. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many peo&#xAD;ple are start&#xAD;ing to feel how mis&#xAD;al&#xAD;igned agents start af&#xAD;fect&#xAD;ing their or&#xAD;ga&#xAD;ni&#xAD;za&#xAD;tions and Watcher is one of the few AI se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity prod&#xAD;ucts that is try&#xAD;ing to tackle im&#xAD;me&#xAD;di&#xAD;ate and fu&#xAD;ture mis&#xAD;al&#xAD;ign&#xAD;ment failures like de&#xAD;cep&#xAD;tion, over&#xAD;claiming, over&#xAD;sight sub&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sion or scope over&#xAD;reach in ad&#xAD;di&#xAD;tion to se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity con&#xAD;cerns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Eng&#xAD;ineer&#xAD;ing Man&#xAD;ager (Product): &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/0e5d1f41-850d-4675-b212-9b6261448667&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​0e5d1f41-850d-4675-b212-9b6261448667&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Full-Stack Eng&#xAD;ineer (Product): &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/ab3051f4-d5be-4b46-9f54-eb14da1a6a54&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​ab3051f4-d5be-4b46-9f54-eb14da1a6a54&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- For&#xAD;ward De&#xAD;ployed Eng&#xAD;ineer: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/2237ce81-cb8e-4f53-a047-e12ea5d6e7d8&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​2237ce81-cb8e-4f53-a047-e12ea5d6e7d8&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Product Se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity Eng&#xAD;ineer: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/c2ee47f7-4fe9-41a7-86fd-ce0a23fe4850&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​c2ee47f7-4fe9-41a7-86fd-ce0a23fe4850&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Watcher: &lt;a href=&quot;https://watcher.apolloresearch.ai/&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​watcher.apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search.ai/​​&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re&#xAD;search &amp;amp; red-teaming&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’re dou&#xAD;bling down on our con&#xAD;trol and mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing re&#xAD;search. We have re&#xAD;cently suc&#xAD;cess&#xAD;fully red-teamed An&#xAD;thropic’s auto-mode and will run more such cam&#xAD;paigns in the fu&#xAD;ture with mul&#xAD;ti&#xAD;ple labs. We will also con&#xAD;tinue to make bet&#xAD;ter mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tors our&#xAD;selves and im&#xAD;prove the re&#xAD;search fron&#xAD;tier for the blue team.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are many low hang&#xAD;ing fruits to pick for mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing and not a lot of time. Our main blocker is hav&#xAD;ing more hands on deck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;RS (Con&#xAD;trol): &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/24d016aa-5a19-4976-8936-af2fbf748000&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/24d016aa-5a19-4976-8936-af2fbf748000&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​24d016aa-5a19-4976-8936-af2fbf748000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;AI Red Team Eng&#xAD;ineer: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/459b83bf-4e7d-41c5-b93e-c589c6b71bfe&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/459b83bf-4e7d-41c5-b93e-c589c6b71bfe&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​459b83bf-4e7d-41c5-b93e-c589c6b71bfe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;AI Se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity &amp;amp; Con&#xAD;trol Re&#xAD;searcher: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/d45269ea-3390-450b-bdda-c495d6123c66&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/d45269ea-3390-450b-bdda-c495d6123c66&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​d45269ea-3390-450b-bdda-c495d6123c66&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing agenda: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.apolloresearch.ai/monitoring/a-scalable-monitoring-research-agenda&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.apolloresearch.ai/monitoring/a-scalable-monitoring-research-agenda&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​www.apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search.ai/​​mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing/​​a-scal&#xAD;able-mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing-re&#xAD;search-agen&#xAD;da&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Auto-mode red-team&#xAD;ing: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.apolloresearch.ai/monitoring/pilot-automode-campaign&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​www.apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search.ai/​​mon&#xAD;i&#xAD;tor&#xAD;ing/​​pi&#xAD;lot-au&#xAD;to&#xAD;mode-cam&#xAD;paign&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal In&#xAD;fra &amp;amp; Security&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;As should be very clear from the last months, se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity is be&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing even more im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant in the AI age. We’re look&#xAD;ing to grow our se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity team to defend against ex&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal and in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;nal, hu&#xAD;man and non-hu&#xAD;man ad&#xAD;ver&#xAD;saries.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;AI Se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity Re&#xAD;searcher: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/8c19d363-a4b1-4207-b5de-24d2d2267c64&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/8c19d363-a4b1-4207-b5de-24d2d2267c64&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​8c19d363-a4b1-4207-b5de-24d2d2267c64&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Se&#xAD;cu&#xAD;rity Eng&#xAD;ineer: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/855f584d-08dd-4845-93b8-dbeb6737707d&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch/855f584d-08dd-4845-93b8-dbeb6737707d&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apol&#xAD;lore&#xAD;search/​​855f584d-08dd-4845-93b8-dbeb6737707d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;All open roles: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jobs.lever.co/apolloresearch&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;https://​​jobs.lever.co/​​apolloresearch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Every role is open in both offices, Lon&#xAD;don and San Fran&#xAD;cisco. We provide visa spon&#xAD;sor&#xAD;ship. A for&#xAD;mal AI safety back&#xAD;ground is not re&#xAD;quired.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Joping </author>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 14:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Invitation to EA Forum Members: An Evening with The Humane League UK by Molly Archer-Zeff</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/vqaXS5v4ZnDthCGEK/invitation-to-ea-forum-members-an-evening-with-the-humane</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On Thurs&#xAD;day 29th Oc&#xAD;to&#xAD;ber, from 7 pm to 10 pm, The Hu&#xAD;mane League UK is host&#xAD;ing an in-per&#xAD;son event in Lon&#xAD;don (the venue is a 5-minute walk from Far&#xAD;ring&#xAD;don sta&#xAD;tion). We would like to in&#xAD;vite mem&#xAD;bers of the EA Fo&#xAD;rum who are in&#xAD;ter&#xAD;ested in learn&#xAD;ing more about our work for farmed an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals. &lt;/strong&gt;This year’s gath&#xAD;er&#xAD;ing is par&#xAD;tic&#xAD;u&#xAD;larly mean&#xAD;ingful as we &lt;strong&gt;cel&#xAD;e&#xAD;brate 10 years of THL UK&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The evening will be an op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nity to con&#xAD;verse with other guests, hear from our new Manag&#xAD;ing Direc&#xAD;tor and staff about our work, and ask ques&#xAD;tions. We’ll provide canap&#xE9;s and soft drinks, along with the op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nity to meet a com&#xAD;mu&#xAD;nity of peo&#xAD;ple who are com&#xAD;mit&#xAD;ted to cre&#xAD;at&#xAD;ing mean&#xAD;ingful change for an&#xAD;i&#xAD;mals.​ &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We hope you’ll join us for an en&#xAD;joy&#xAD;able evening and a chance to learn more about one of the world’s most sig&#xAD;nifi&#xAD;cant yet over&#xAD;looked welfare is&#xAD;sues.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;​The evening will fol&#xAD;low this pro&#xAD;vi&#xAD;sional agenda:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;​&lt;strong&gt;7:00- 7:50pm:&lt;/strong&gt; Canap&#xE9;s and con&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sa&#xAD;tion with THL UK staff, Trus&#xAD;tees, and fel&#xAD;low guests&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;​&lt;strong&gt;7:50–8:10pm:&lt;/strong&gt; An ex&#xAD;clu&#xAD;sive pre&#xAD;sen&#xAD;ta&#xAD;tion from THL UK staff about our up&#xAD;com&#xAD;ing plans and new strate&#xAD;gic di&#xAD;rec&#xAD;tion for broiler chickens&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;​&lt;strong&gt;8:10–8:30pm:&lt;/strong&gt; Q&amp;amp;A- an op&#xAD;por&#xAD;tu&#xAD;nity to ask ques&#xAD;tions about our work and im&#xAD;pact for animals&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;​&lt;strong&gt;8:30–10:00pm:&lt;/strong&gt; Net&#xAD;work&#xAD;ing and con&#xAD;ver&#xAD;sa&#xAD;tion with our sup&#xAD;port&#xAD;ers, staff, and Trustees&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The event is free to at&#xAD;tend. We have limited spaces, so please email me at &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mailto:marcherzeff@thehumaneleague.org.uk&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;marcherzeff@&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehumaneleague.org.uk&quot; class=&quot;bare-url&quot;&gt;the&#xAD;hu&#xAD;mane&#xAD;league.org.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; or send me a DM via the Fo&#xAD;rum if you’d like to join us for the evening.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Molly Archer-Zeff</author>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 11:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>How much “benefit” does a pause/​pace cost us? by Charlie_Guthmann</title>
            <link>https://forum.nunosempere.com/posts/E6drAH7mwzGj96iYD/how-much-benefit-does-a-pause-pace-cost-us</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;It seems like an im&#xAD;por&#xAD;tant ques&#xAD;tion that I haven’t seen great anal&#xAD;y&#xAD;sis on is: if we stop or heav&#xAD;ily pace fron&#xAD;tier train&#xAD;ing runs and de&#xAD;vel&#xAD;op&#xAD;ment, how much of the benefits (mea&#xAD;sured ei&#xAD;ther in eco&#xAD;nomics/​welfare or straight ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities) will we lose per unit time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is sort of vague and I would also like some help op&#xAD;er&#xAD;a&#xAD;tional&#xAD;iz&#xAD;ing this ques&#xAD;tion. What I’m imag&#xAD;in&#xAD;ing is ap&#xAD;prox&#xAD;i&#xAD;mately as fol&#xAD;lows. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- We open source fable/​as&#xAD;tra weights (or imag&#xAD;ine in a year some open source model gets to that level)&lt;br&gt;- You can still fine&#xAD;tune the mod&#xAD;els (prob&#xAD;a&#xAD;bly mi&#xAD;sus&#xAD;ing this but let’s say a “team” can use 1/​100th or some other fac&#xAD;tor of the com&#xAD;pute used to train them to up&#xAD;date the weights per year)&lt;br&gt;- You can still up&#xAD;date har&#xAD;nesses&lt;br&gt;- You can still up&#xAD;date APIs&lt;br&gt;- You can still build new com&#xAD;pany struc&#xAD;tures or work&#xAD;flows&lt;br&gt;- You can still op&#xAD;ti&#xAD;mize caching, dat&#xAD;a&#xAD;cen&#xAD;ter com&#xAD;pute use, etc. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How much would this&lt;br&gt;- Lower gdp growth&lt;br&gt;- Lower ca&#xAD;pa&#xAD;bil&#xAD;ities growth&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;over (1,5,n) years. &lt;br&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
            <author>Charlie_Guthmann</author>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 23:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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